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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#341301: Nov 26th 2020 at 8:00:58 AM

Ok,now you're doom saying,which is just unproductive and against the rules of the thread

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#341302: Nov 26th 2020 at 8:02:39 AM

Sorry. I got carried away.

I just wonder, has there ever being a 6-3 Republican majority on the court? Or is this the first time in history?

Edited by clemont107 on Nov 26th 2020 at 11:03:51 AM

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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#341303: Nov 26th 2020 at 8:36:02 AM

No, it's been worse before. See The Lochner era.

Edited by speedyboris on Nov 26th 2020 at 4:34:26 AM

ScubaWolf from South Carolina Since: Feb, 2020
#341304: Nov 26th 2020 at 8:37:49 AM

A question, what would happen realistically if New York decided it was going to ignore the SCOTUS ruling and still impose a ban?

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#341305: Nov 26th 2020 at 8:44:18 AM

[up]He'll find out that these days ignoring SCOTUS (or any forms of checks and balances) is only OK if you're a Republican.

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ScubaWolf from South Carolina Since: Feb, 2020
#341306: Nov 26th 2020 at 8:45:51 AM

[up] I meant even the courts, if the courts of the state also ignored the ruling. What would happen?

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#341307: Nov 26th 2020 at 8:47:51 AM

Meanwhile, a man actually named "New York" is registering as a Republican as we speak so he can ignore the courts. grin

Edited by sgamer82 on Nov 26th 2020 at 8:48:04 AM

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#341308: Nov 26th 2020 at 8:56:22 AM

[up][up]I think the president (Biden) could ignore the rulings if they are unfavorable (that's what Andrew Jackson AKA Trump's favorite president did when in office), and state officials who disagree with the ruling could defy it. However in Red states I think such a ruling would incentivize people like Graham and co. to remove restrictions, but even if there was no ruling, they would probably remove restrictions anyway.

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Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#341309: Nov 26th 2020 at 9:11:02 AM

Apparently even Newsmaxx called the election for Biden. Now Conservatives are throwing the network under the bus. Hopefully Republican infighting will now make them eat eachother.

Time for The Republican Party to end, it won't happen but it is well past time.

Edited by Wildcard on Nov 26th 2020 at 12:11:21 PM

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#341310: Nov 26th 2020 at 9:22:10 AM

[up]As much as people would like it to end, it won't. There will always be people who think the GOP is their savior, no matter how far that is from the truth. What we can do is teach younger generations how to embrace new ideas and be open to everyone.

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#341311: Nov 26th 2020 at 9:28:27 AM

[up]x2 Destroying the Republican Party won't end these Neo-Nazis and their Sympathizers. They'll just make a new party that's just as bad, if not worse, then the current Republican Party.

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#341312: Nov 26th 2020 at 9:41:26 AM

Still, better take the current chance to make them turn into each other while people work.

Edited by Blueace on Nov 26th 2020 at 2:41:45 PM

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Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#341313: Nov 26th 2020 at 9:43:55 AM

If nothing else, a collapse of the GOP means at least several years for another conservative party to coalesce, which would give Dems an advantage in the short term to stimulate the economy, fight against climate change, and pursue their agenda.

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#341314: Nov 26th 2020 at 9:46:24 AM

Basically like after Obama was elected and they went through with Palin and Mccain,we can expect similar things

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Lazlo74 from A tropical hell-hole Since: May, 2018
#341315: Nov 26th 2020 at 9:59:25 AM

Now that Newsmax finally decided to report something factual for once, we just need OAN to call the election once they have nothing left to spin and watch all the Trumpers run out of right-wing mouthpiece channels to latch on to.

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Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#341316: Nov 26th 2020 at 10:19:16 AM

[up]It would be relatively easy for them to just not call the election and continue the conspiracy rhetoric.

Just stop showing electoral maps and slip in another vague story about electoral controversy every once in a while for the next four years and they can keep their Trumpist audience in relative ignorance.

[up][up][up]I can't see such an event happening without the the Left and Right wings of the Democratic party also falling out. In fact such a scenario may move the overton window more to the right if the Reactionary/Fascist wing of the Republican Party are allowed to take the mantle of the "conservative" party.

Edited by Mio on Nov 26th 2020 at 1:22:54 PM

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#341317: Nov 26th 2020 at 11:01:08 AM

So, what's happening in Georgia so far? The run-off isn't until early January but how do the polls look?

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#341318: Nov 26th 2020 at 11:05:46 AM

[up] From what I've seen, it's basically a dead heat: Warnock (D) and Loeffler (R) are literally tied while Perdue (R) is slightly ahead of Ossoff (D).

However, considering how off polling has been when Trump is involved, I wouldn't take anything for granted.

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#341319: Nov 26th 2020 at 11:06:42 AM

There seems to have been only a couple polls done since Election Day, both races look to be very tight and all leads are very much within the margin of error.

[up] Georgia had some of the beat polling for the presidential election, 538s average was off by only a single point.

But the race here is going to be tight enough that a single point could very much be the margin of victory.

Edited by Silasw on Nov 26th 2020 at 7:07:58 PM

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#341320: Nov 26th 2020 at 11:17:07 AM

So basically close enough that, baring error, any one of the wild cards that have come up (MAGA-boycott) may actually be the deciding factor.

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#341322: Nov 26th 2020 at 11:19:14 AM

And Purdue just had a federal investigation for his insider trading start, so that can't help him.

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#341323: Nov 26th 2020 at 11:24:02 AM

What information we have implies that the GOP should have a slight lead- Perdue is ahead of Ossof in the polls, and in November the Georgia polls had a slight error in the GOP's favour.

And conventional wisdom would say that things will shift somewhat in the GOP's favour in January now that the Dems don't have to worry about Trump winning but the Republicans have to worry about the possibility of a Dem trifecta.

but Trump's actions have somewhat muddied the water, though- if the Republicans voters think the vote is rigged, they might not bother to show up. And they're been noises about the GOP strategists encouraging their voters to do stupid things like boycott it or write-in Trump as a 'protest' for Biden winning Georgia. And generally they've just given the Dems a few weeks head start at campaigning with their insistence on not acknowledging Trump's win. All of which I would normally say isn't likely to amount to much, but with how small the margins seems to be, it could matter.

But basically we don't know how things'll turn out.

Edited by Gilphon on Nov 26th 2020 at 2:25:07 PM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#341324: Nov 26th 2020 at 11:32:42 AM

https://www.newsweek.com/donor-sues-pro-trump-group-2-5-million-failing-prove-voter-fraud-1550457

Donors are demanding their money back since it turned out that Donald could never actually overturn the election and has no evidence of fraud. This is one of those things where you have to wonder, "Wait, why would you ever believe in the first place?"

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#341325: Nov 26th 2020 at 11:34:10 AM

Incidentally, saw this on https://currentstatus.io/

Trump’s baseless election fraud claims in Georgia turn Senate runoffs into a ‘high-wire act’ for Republicans
GOP Sens. Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue are trying to woo the president’s supporters without discouraging trust in the state’s voting system.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-fraud-claims-georgia-republicans-run-offs-perdue-loeffler/2020/11/26/0c4d6b3a-2f30-11eb-bae0-50bb17126614_story.html


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