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Ayasugi Since: Oct, 2010
#341251: Nov 25th 2020 at 10:48:23 PM

Speaking of acknowledging that Trump lost the election, You Tube is still automatically posting a fact check banner with a link to the bottom of all videos talking about the election, saying that AP has called Biden as winner. Two weeks after it was called. Did something like this happen after the 2016 election? I can't remember it.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#341252: Nov 25th 2020 at 10:50:01 PM

I mean, Hillary conceded the night of and there wasn't widespread belief among Democrats that massive fraud was the reason for Trump's win, so I doubt it.

Edited by LSBK on Nov 25th 2020 at 12:50:30 PM

Ayasugi Since: Oct, 2010
#341253: Nov 25th 2020 at 10:57:50 PM

I see Trump supporters saying that Democrats contested Trump's win for all four years so they're not overreacting by not admitting he lost two weeks later.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#341254: Nov 25th 2020 at 11:02:05 PM

They're full of it, as usual.

Disgusted, but not surprised
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#341255: Nov 25th 2020 at 11:02:51 PM

Not that it matters, but what do they call how they treated Obama for eight years?

Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#341256: Nov 25th 2020 at 11:16:52 PM

Not going far enough, I assume.

Shaoken (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#341257: Nov 25th 2020 at 11:35:58 PM

Everyone "contested" it in the sense that they reminded Trump that he lost the popular vote and only work because of the bullshit that is the Electoral College. Nobody tried arguing that he didn't legally win the election.

Contrast with Republicans who decided they would spend 8 years rejecting everything about Obama.

KZN02 The Master of Tediousness (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
The Master of Tediousness
#341258: Nov 25th 2020 at 11:37:52 PM

Looks like the kraken has been released? But it sure looks to have a number of typos, among the usual crazy allegations.

With a '0', not an 'O'
devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#341259: Nov 25th 2020 at 11:46:34 PM

The big difference with 2016 is that the relevant parties actually conceded immediately. Not just Hillary, Obama had Trump in the White House within days to start the transition. people complained about it on twitter and such, but it's not like Hillary started a wave of lawsuits to contest the election or Obama denied the outcome.

And the russian meddling was always more about influencing voters (releasing the emails in a maximum damage way, meeting with don Jr, bots and false information) than literally stealing votes.

Edited by devak on Nov 25th 2020 at 8:47:23 PM

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#341260: Nov 26th 2020 at 12:10:45 AM

There was a "not my President" push shortly after the election that largely centered around the electoral college and how Trump won election while losing the popular vote by millions, but that was it, aside from the always-hopeless dialogue around faithless electors. As far as I know, there were no allegations of fraud - in fact, people said that the electoral college system worked as it had been designed to, and that was the real problem.

It's been fun.
NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#341261: Nov 26th 2020 at 12:26:18 AM

So let me see if I've got her legal argument right.

There is overwhelming fraud, so overwhelming it is invisible and there is no evidence to support her claims because the fraudsters are so competent and dangerous they have left no evidence...but she's alleging it without evidence just...because she thinks it's right.

I am not a lawyer but I think this is not a winning legal strategy.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#341262: Nov 26th 2020 at 12:30:22 AM

There's a reason even Trump and Giuliani tried to distance themselves from her. Even they recognize that this will not help them.

Disgusted, but not surprised
singularityshot Since: Dec, 2012
#341264: Nov 26th 2020 at 12:39:42 AM

Do you think the Flynn pardon was partly done to shut her up specifically?

Like, it's clear for everyone involved in Trumpland it's better that she never steps foot into a courthouse, but as Flynn's lawyer that's exactly what she will be doing. So a pardon gets around that particular problem fairly neatly.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#341265: Nov 26th 2020 at 12:41:27 AM

[up][up]It's almost impressive how Trump's Supreme Court picks made the preceding one seem not as bad.

  • Gorsuch - bad
  • Kavanaugh - very bad
  • Barrett - omgwtffaaaargggghhh

Disgusted, but not surprised
Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#341266: Nov 26th 2020 at 3:55:52 AM

Well, that’s a horrifying ruling. They’ve banned states from controlling a pandemic.

Edited by Galadriel on Nov 26th 2020 at 6:56:32 AM

Pendrake That Guy from "Sweet Something of.... Someplace!" (Canada) Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Betrayed by Delilah
Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#341268: Nov 26th 2020 at 4:13:11 AM

It surprises me. I knew Gorsuch was conservative but I thought he was at least, you know, rational.

Imca (Veteran)
#341269: Nov 26th 2020 at 4:19:30 AM

Its a religious based ruling, there all fundamentalists... Why would they rule in the way that doesn't favor religion?

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#341270: Nov 26th 2020 at 4:21:03 AM

Well the police in my state have said they are straight up not enforcing any pandemic restrictions. So its not like the ruling really matters if no one will enforce them.

We are in for a VERY horrible few months.

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#341272: Nov 26th 2020 at 4:23:08 AM

California... its gotten so bad my County Sheriff has gone on TV saying so.

The finish line is in sight and everyone is giving up.

Edited by Memers on Nov 26th 2020 at 4:23:59 AM

Bur from Flyover Country (Living Relic) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#341273: Nov 26th 2020 at 5:31:58 AM

It sounds more like the finish line is in sight and authorities are trying to trip everyone to keep them from crossing.

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#341274: Nov 26th 2020 at 5:42:49 AM

Sounds like the mistake was specifically in banning religious gathering of more than X, right?

I think the best way would be banning all gatherings and then adding exceptions (including, if one so fancies, one for "religious gathering of up to X people").

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#341275: Nov 26th 2020 at 6:29:23 AM

[up]If they ban all gatherings, they'd still get sued for impeding religious freedom


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