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Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#34101: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:12:01 PM

Depends on various factors. where(did you hear about the guys who got shot in somalia the other day? me niether)/why(hate crim? big news. drug dealer shot? pff) /what else is in the news(one celebrity unfollows another on twitter! what, what double homicide?) , ect.

edited 21st Oct '12 6:12:23 PM by Joesolo

I'm baaaaaaack
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#34102: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:37:27 PM

And of course the list I spend 20 minutes on gets put on the last post of a page.

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻)

edited 21st Oct '12 6:38:05 PM by DeviantBraeburn

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#34103: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:41:26 PM

Go Angus King! There should be more non-Dems non-Reps in public office.

HilarityEnsues Since: Sep, 2009
#34104: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:49:50 PM

We just need to clone Bernie Sanders until he can become every member of Congress.

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#34105: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:56:14 PM

We just need to destroy the Republican party, and have all the liberals jump the Democrat ship for the Green ship, sending all the reasonable members of the Republican party into the Democratic party.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#34106: Oct 21st 2012 at 6:59:02 PM

I'm just grateful that Lieberman is finally choosing to retire.

edited 21st Oct '12 7:00:22 PM by DeviantBraeburn

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#34107: Oct 21st 2012 at 7:00:51 PM

The only problem is that there are people who will simply not support anyone who does not want an abortion ban (to varying degrees), and Democrats are against that, so I don't think they'll be happy just switching sides.

Of course, the Democrats used to be the pro-slavery party, so maybe they'll just shift policies during the restructuring.

Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.
DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#34108: Oct 21st 2012 at 7:02:29 PM

[up] Pretty much this. Getting conservatives to vote Democrat just means that the Democrats will start pandering to the far right.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#34109: Oct 21st 2012 at 7:13:33 PM

Yeah, that might've happened when the Republican party was a pragmatic entity with actual goals up for opinion and debate, but right now they've kinda been turned into a paranoid crusade with a penchant for willful self-delusion. Mostly because whipping an isolated constituency into ideologues is a good way to keep profiting from the mistaken policies that put its leaders in power in the first place.

I mean best case scenario, the Democrats get another Nixon looking for disenfranchised voters and the crazies hijack you guys all over again, but right now even that isn't likely without a high-profile mass ditching that isn't going to happen. The thing about ditching the Dixiecrats was that it was a mostly moral decision with comparatively few financial hangups — its leaders weren't directly profiting from the policies they were putting in place.

edited 21st Oct '12 7:17:11 PM by Pykrete

terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#34110: Oct 21st 2012 at 7:19:38 PM

We don't need the Democrats to become Conservative and the Greens to take over,...we need the return of Rockefeller Republicans as a counterweight to the Blue Dogs which in turn counterweight the stereotypical Reagan Republicans and Kennedy Democrats.

Mc Cain was probably the last Rockefeller Republican,and that was extinguished with the nomination of Sarah Palin

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#34111: Oct 21st 2012 at 7:22:44 PM

[up]

The problem with bringing back Rockefeller Republicans is by the current republican standardm, theyre RIN Os who dont share true christian conservative american family values.

Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#34112: Oct 21st 2012 at 7:34:45 PM

Hell, our presidential candidate is on video record contradicting himself in quite explicit terms, and our VP pick has been condemned by his own denomination's conference of bishops for his economic policy and cited a notorious sociopath and militant atheist as his primary inspiration going into politics. The current Republican standard isn't Christian anything, it's straight-up self delusion on the same level as a soccer dad whose little angel couldn't possibly have made a foul.

I want my party back. sad

edited 21st Oct '12 7:40:58 PM by Pykrete

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#34113: Oct 21st 2012 at 7:46:11 PM

[up]

I know that. But the vast majority of people who vote for them really think they are true blue christians and will not be told at all that they are mistaken in any way because theyre too deluded to see it.

RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
scratching at .8, just hopin'
#34114: Oct 21st 2012 at 8:03:45 PM

The country's progress and survival depend on just crowding out the low-information culture warrior voting demographic, and starving the corporate backers that rely on them. They need to be beaten into electoral insignificance. No two ways about it.

We just need to clone Bernie Sanders until he can become every member of Congress.
I'm all sorts of okay with this.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#34115: Oct 21st 2012 at 8:06:52 PM

I'm not,we need conservatism,it's not entirely useless

We just need the parties to have little sects of both,maybe the GOP is more conservative,...maybe the Dems are more liberal,but they aren't purely one or the other.

Currently only the Dems seem to remember this,the GOP hasn't tried this since the 70's and they've just gotten worse.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#34116: Oct 21st 2012 at 8:12:57 PM

Conservatism meaning "slow and steady change while avoiding damaging impulse decisions". The GOP (many of them anyway, anyone who speaks out or even keep quiet gets pounded in the primaries by some fanatic) really isn't conservative; they are flat out reactionary.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#34117: Oct 21st 2012 at 8:27:07 PM

[up] Sort of. I think the modern definition of "conservative" came about to describe people who didn't like FDR's New Deal back during the Great Depression. They've pretty much just continued in that trend.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
scratching at .8, just hopin'
#34118: Oct 21st 2012 at 8:30:45 PM

I'm not, we need conservatism, it's not entirely useless
I didn't say "conservative", I said "the low-information culture warrior voting demographic, and starving the corporate backers that rely on them", and that's what I specifically meant. Prudence and restraint have a place in today's politics: regressive tribalist ideologies don't.

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
Trivialis Since: Oct, 2011
#34120: Oct 21st 2012 at 9:11:14 PM

I want my party back. sad

Same here.

The Republican Party is more diverse in state level, particularly some governors.

LostAnarchist Violence Is Necessary! from Neo Arcadia Itself Since: Sep, 2011
Violence Is Necessary!
#34121: Oct 21st 2012 at 9:17:39 PM

[up]They're all neo-nazis as far as I'm concerned: Pollution, no abortions, no civil rights, no money toward public resource or for ourselves to use, and when they do it isn't enough - why would anyone support this shit?!

edited 21st Oct '12 9:20:12 PM by LostAnarchist

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deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#34122: Oct 21st 2012 at 9:20:02 PM

Honestly, I feel like both the Democrats and Republicans, but the extremists in the Republican party especially, are sending us on a downward spiral toward a fascist theocracy.

Trivialis Since: Oct, 2011
#34123: Oct 21st 2012 at 9:21:46 PM

[up][up]Please don't generalize like that when that doesn't apply to everyone.

Arnold Schwarzenegger was thought to be quite different from the mainstream GOP at federal level, despite being a longtime Republican. One source I've read says that he simply chose the Republican because he felt it gives more credence as a governor. There's actually a book written about his "blockbuster democracy" and how he's politically intelligent.

[up]I don't see the Democrats sending the nation towards anything really. It's just trying to stabilize things.

edited 21st Oct '12 9:22:48 PM by Trivialis

Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#34124: Oct 21st 2012 at 9:25:01 PM

Pretty much all the big looming-fascism backstabs that got passed were overwhelmingly bipartisan.

[down] Airborne surveillance drones, extrajudicial killing of US citizens...

edited 21st Oct '12 9:26:36 PM by Pykrete

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#34125: Oct 21st 2012 at 9:25:24 PM

Drone strikes. Undeclared wars. Wiretapping and surveillance. All things that have happened under Obama by Obama, who is currently the most prominent Democrat in the country. Sure, they're sending us there far slower than the extremists in the Republican party, but so are the moderates in the Republican party.

Oh! And I nearly forgot about the NDAA!

edited 21st Oct '12 9:25:56 PM by deathpigeon


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