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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
It really isn't as if Hitler wasn't any less of a Fascist before he got to the bit where Jews were being systematically exterminated. Likewise, Trump isn't any less of a Fascist because he hasn't crossed whatever arbritrary line of awfulness you (in the general sense) have set for him.
And before someone says "Oh, Trump was never going to be as bad as Hitler" - people didn't think Hitler was going to be that bad either. Fascism is actually pretty good at growing within Liberal Democracies in such a way that by the time Liberals usually realise the threat, it's too late.
"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."The thing about Trump is we're actually at a point where America's democracy has stopped him from seizing the Presidency for Life despite the popular vote saying otherwise.
If nothing else, Trump WOULD become dictator for life against the will of the people but just failed to.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters."And before someone says "Oh, Trump was never going to be as bad as Hitler" - people didn't think Hitler was going to be that bad either. Fascism is actually pretty good at growing within Liberal Democracies in such a way that by the time Liberals usually realise the threat, it's too late."
Fascism isn't "easy" at growing within liberal democracies. Germany wasn't that. The Weimar Republic was in the middle of a depression, had no political legitimacy, a brand new democratic tradition, and was filled with ex-Imperial German politicians and military leadership, most of whom weren't that ideologically distant from 1932 Hitler. Italy, Croatia, Hungary, etc. weren't long-standing liberal democracies when they became fascist. Neither, for that matter, was Spain. The UK never became fascist, France didn't, the US didn't, Canada didn't, India as independent state didn't.
Fascism grows in places without respect for institutions, the rule of law, a free press, or the democratic process, but that isn't because liberal democracy is the kernel from which the fascist state grows, but because democracy isn't entrenched, and authoritarian leadership more easily replaces displaced authoritarian leadership.
Edited by CrimsonZephyr on Nov 22nd 2020 at 8:31:54 AM
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."Trump just fired Sidney Powell of "Release the Kraken" and "I'm gonna Blow up Georgia" fame.
R/Conservative is finally realizing Trump is losing due to this.
https://in.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2820UB?utm_source=reddit.com
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Nov 22nd 2020 at 5:35:29 AM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
I agree.
Normalizing evil was the problem with how Democrats reacted to the Bush administration. It took horrific abuses - torture, murder of civilians with remote drones in undeclared wars, sweeping violations of civil liberties - and turned them into mere policy disagreements (if that - the drone strikes were continued by Obama). We can’t afford to keep doing that, especially not with things like concentration camps, extortion of allies for partisan gain, and attempts to overthrow democracy.
Edited by Galadriel on Nov 22nd 2020 at 8:57:43 AM
Bloomberg: Biden will name Tony Blinken as his Secretary of State
Blinken was Deputy Secretary of State and Deputy National Security Advisor under Obama and is a longtime Biden aide.
The article also notes that Jake Sullivan is expected to be named National Security Advisor.
Is that a good thing or a meh thing? I think someone else asked that but nobody could provide a clear answer.
As far as I can tell, Blinken is a career bureaucrat, so I have little knowledge of his ideological stances on various issues other than that he's experienced and on good terms with Biden. That he's opened communication channels with Taiwan off the bat is good news, as it indicates the Biden administration views countering CCP's efforts at imperialism and (re-)establishing strong support with other East Asian nations as a matter of importance.
Edited by AlleyOop on Nov 22nd 2020 at 10:15:46 AM
Zephyr: even that dosent make a facist, just places were facism can arise.
After all facism is in part polarization in their ultimate expresson and a love for violence into everything, compared to that trump is a best a typical latino dictator like maduro for examples, he just want to rip everyone pocket and feeling himself.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"Now, it remains to be seen if Trump or one of his kids really will try and run again in 2024 or if they'll just soak up media corp profits...
...but I shudder to think about what sort of lunatic they'll dredge up to try and go further right than Donald Trump.
2024 Headlines The Republican Party broke with tradition when Primary Voters chose a Ouija Board channeling Adolf Hitler's Ghost as the nominee.
Edited by NickTheSwing on Nov 22nd 2020 at 7:49:37 AM
After Roe vs Wade back in the 70's happened. Evangelicals and fundamentalists did not like that at all.
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Trump actually hates the military because he thinks they're too soft, so very fascist.
Trump pardoned a Navy SEAL war criminal for murder and torture as well as firing weapons indiscriminately into civilian locations.
He hates rules against targeting families and said doing so would be one of the things he did in office.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.