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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#340476: Nov 21st 2020 at 11:29:46 AM

> America deserves a Donald Trump presidential library as a reminder of what they allowed to happen.

My proposal is a replica of the White house but it's purposefully run down and there's a giant stone hand point towards it,that would get the point across I think

A literal spite house basically

Edited by Ultimatum on Nov 21st 2020 at 7:30:01 PM

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#340477: Nov 21st 2020 at 11:35:31 AM

Personally, I'd say let there be a Donald Trump Library, just don't draw any attention to it.

Leviticus 19:34
PointMaid Since: Jun, 2014
#340478: Nov 21st 2020 at 11:43:42 AM

The DT Library I would build?

An institution dedicated to academic fact-checking of every single piece of official communication of his ever.

And yes, that includes Tweets.

Edited by PointMaid on Nov 21st 2020 at 2:44:48 PM

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#340479: Nov 21st 2020 at 11:47:51 AM

Honestly, its probably just going to be a big gift shop, full of overpriced and substandard junk.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Pendrake That Guy from "Sweet Something of.... Someplace!" (Canada) Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Betrayed by Delilah
That Guy
#340480: Nov 21st 2020 at 11:48:32 AM

TBH, the Rittenhouse sitch seems too damn fishy for me in every aspect.

Mean, you've got him, and then you've got the three guys who DID attack him (it's on camera from at least ten different Cellphones that they initiated), who all happened to have rap sheets for violent crimes, and three of the four were from out of State.

All of them just happening to be there that night is a bit too much of a Contrived Coincidence for me. Mean, hell, given Trump trying to get the Army deployed there BEFORE that happened makes me think the Trump Campaign actually planted some guys into the protest to try and make it turn violent. Not like it'd be the first time something like that happened, if anyone recalls the simultaneous riots in Vancouver and Boston when Boston won the Stanley Cup nearly a decade ago. There were inciters waiting to start shit regardless of who won.

I mean, I know I sound like a Conspiracy Theorist, but that night playing out like it did is WAY too convenient.

Edited by Pendrake on Nov 21st 2020 at 11:50:04 AM

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AngrokVa indighost from america, unfortunately Since: Feb, 2012 Relationship Status: Saddled with unnecessary feelings
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#340482: Nov 21st 2020 at 11:55:16 AM

The electoral college wasn't foisted on the country by some outside influence.

This is a very poor argument, even if 100% of early Americans supported it that doesn't make the contemporary Americans responsible.

And the Electoral College didn't force tens of millions of voters to support Trump. Or cause non suppressed voters to stay home in 2016.

Good thing absolutely no one has argued otherwise.

They claimed that "America" chose Trump when in reality more people opposed him then supported him. Ergo their claim was false.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#340483: Nov 21st 2020 at 12:00:04 PM

America's institutions enabled his rise. Not every single American bears responsiblity for Trump, not even most. America, however, absolutely does.

Edited by Perseus on Nov 22nd 2020 at 7:10:57 AM

NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#340484: Nov 21st 2020 at 12:00:57 PM

I think the generalization is less about broadly painting a majority of America as Trump supporters and more meant to highlight how the pillars the country is founded on, i.e. America as an identity, are ultimately the things that enabled someone like Trump to take office with the wholehearted, blind, and unflinchingly loyal support of a little under half the country.

Best analogy I can think of is that, if someone were to say "Wal-Mart sucks and deserves to plummet" that'd be referring to the corporate entity and not the elderly cashier that didn't really have a choice.

([nja])

Edited by NesClassic on Nov 21st 2020 at 12:01:27 PM

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#340485: Nov 21st 2020 at 12:02:40 PM

"Regardless they're not giving up and plan to reach out to voters in different ways (e.g. meeting those who voted for the new state flag and medical marijuana)."

I want to come back to this. First off, Godspeed to the Mississippi Democrats. Secondly, I was listening to Abrams in an interview earlier and she talked about how her efforts began back in 2011. Her and the works of others as well began almost a decade ago. That's the kind of effort and long term outreach people need to keep in mind if any of us join Mississippi Democrats in trying to turn out red areas blue.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#340486: Nov 21st 2020 at 12:08:22 PM

[up]The news article cites Marvin King (a political scientist at Mississipi University) as saying that it's possible the GOP will become so extreme eventually the democrats will have a shot at persuading moderate voters and slowly gain a majority that way, but that he sees this as a "20 year scenario".

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#340487: Nov 21st 2020 at 12:10:21 PM

Edit:

Just a few more days until certification.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Nov 21st 2020 at 12:11:27 PM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#340488: Nov 21st 2020 at 12:26:54 PM

I'm also still curious about that dip in black male support and what can be done to win back their favor.

ScubaWolf from South Carolina Since: Feb, 2020
#340489: Nov 21st 2020 at 12:51:44 PM

[up] Police reform, forgiving student debt, universal health care, quite a number of things people are calling radical that are needed for a functioning society. In other words, "radical leftist" ideas.

"In a move surprising absolutely no one"
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#340490: Nov 21st 2020 at 12:56:30 PM

[up]Are you saying those men think they're going to get that from Republicans? Because otherwise the swing to them still doesn't make sense.

Edited by LSBK on Nov 21st 2020 at 2:56:55 PM

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#340491: Nov 21st 2020 at 1:03:20 PM

I think it’s more that people canshave have political views and wishes that draw from both sides of the political spectrum. If a person has views that draw them to the Republicans or to Trump (social conservatism, or a general value for brashness and Type A personalities) and other values that draw them towards the Democrats (availability of health care and higher education, not wanting to be killed by police), but the Democrats aren’t actually offering them anything meaningful on their leftward values, then they might go for the Republicans because they’re offering something that aligns with the rightward values.

ScubaWolf from South Carolina Since: Feb, 2020
#340492: Nov 21st 2020 at 1:05:52 PM

[up][up] No, I'm saying it's easier to swing people to your side if you give them things that help them. In terms of the blacks who went for Trump...I'm going to take a wild probably wrong guess and say they're Boomerang Bigots.

Edited by ScubaWolf on Nov 21st 2020 at 4:06:01 AM

"In a move surprising absolutely no one"
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#340493: Nov 21st 2020 at 1:15:52 PM

https://www.newsweek.com/georgia-trump-supporters-destroy-gop-boycott-senate-runoffs-1549245

Trump supporters organizing boycott of Georgia Senate runoff.

Willy Wonka voice: No, please, don't. Stop.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#340494: Nov 21st 2020 at 1:22:21 PM

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/bypassing-mcconnell-democrats-push-biden-aggressively-use-executive-power-n1248457

Democrats encourage Biden to use E Os aggressively and funding power to bypass Mc Connell.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#340495: Nov 21st 2020 at 1:25:39 PM

LMAO I didn't know if it was actually going to go that far, but the idea that the GOP's own voters would refuse to vote out of protest in the runoffs is hilarious.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#340496: Nov 21st 2020 at 1:31:01 PM

Don't get too excited. Twitter is not real life and Parlor is a discount white nationalists Twitter.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#340497: Nov 21st 2020 at 1:45:35 PM

It would be deeply amusing if Trump's rhetoric against the election cost them the Senate. And it's not like it would be unprecedented, Trump's anti-ballot rhetoric played a major role in him losing Georgia after all.

I'm not betting on it definitely screwing the Republicans over but there is a very real possibility.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Nov 21st 2020 at 1:46:22 AM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#340498: Nov 21st 2020 at 1:49:42 PM

I imagine it will cost them some fanatics. But there's many who weren't voting Republican but Trump anyway.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Pendrake That Guy from "Sweet Something of.... Someplace!" (Canada) Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Betrayed by Delilah
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#340500: Nov 21st 2020 at 2:04:04 PM

I imagine it will cost them some fanatics. But there's many who weren't voting Republican but Trump anyway.

IIRC a supermajority of Republicans accept the voter fraud narrative, it could cost them more than a few fanatics.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang

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