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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
X4 I doubt Trump hasn’t already sold any secrets he understood, plus I suspect that the CIA having been operating a You Didn't Ask policy on important information for a while now, if they don’t just operate one as routine with all political figures.
Edited by Silasw on Nov 19th 2020 at 1:14:16 PM
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranIt's not a certainty yet that this will happen, but it's certainly looking like there's a whole lot more of a foundation for it being laid than there ever was in Georgia.
As the governor can veto anything they pass they’d have to try and implement it in defiance of the governor’s veto, which sounds like a real good way for Democrats to gain control of the Michigan legislature after either a riot or the national guard remove Republican lawmakers from their positions by force. Hell any electors appointed that way might be open to sedition charges.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranTo legally have to right to appoint their own electors the legislature would have to pass a law, otherwise they have as much right to appoint their own electors as you do.
There’s also the fact that Evil Turtle has committed to ignoring rouge electors when he said that there will be a peaceful transition of power.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranI don't really trust McConnell on keeping his word on handing the election to Biden. He may change his mind and go back to defending Trump if it becomes apparent (and it probably will, even without the Dems controlling the Senate) that a Biden presidency is not good for the GOP.
I think McConnell is getting very old as a Senator. Because he may only have a few years left in his life at most, McConnell would be willing to defend Trump's attempts to steal the election even if it risked his safety.
Edited by clemont107 on Nov 19th 2020 at 9:08:25 AM
"Wow, no Mega Togekiss in Legends Z-A. Or any non-Froslass new Sinnoh Mega Evolutions. Round of applause, everybody." - Dawn![]()
No, some people here just like to speculate about coups because they’re addicted to being terrified.
Cory Booker has gone on the record as being willing to give his life to prevent a GOP coup, I doubt he’s the only one who feels that way.
Edited by Silasw on Nov 19th 2020 at 2:08:33 PM
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
While I don't think there will actually be a coup by Donnie and Friends, I still think there will be massive riots by his supporters when Biden is inaugurated. To prevent incivility, Biden could deploy the National Guard and tear gas on the MAGA fanatics the exact same way Trump did on protesters when he went to do a photo-op earlier this year.
Mc Connell seems like the type that doesn't mind playing the long game. The GOP doesn't need to stage an active coup if creating an illiberal democracy in the background via gerrymandering, voter suppression, disinformation, etc is viable. So far, all his obstruction is mostly paying off since the GOP has gained a lot of control over the judiciary.
Edited by Draghinazzo on Nov 19th 2020 at 11:20:33 AM
To clarify what I meant when/if I said the word 'coup': I think there is a very real possibility that the Republican-controlled Michigan state legislature will ignore the popular vote and appoint its own slate of pro-Trump electors.
I do not think this is likely to change the outcome of the election. It's the only real chance Trump has left and as such is very frightening, but the odds of it actually working seem flat-out insurmountable.
I don't think there is any chance whatsoever of an actual conventional military coup that would involve senators potentially dying. This shouldn't even really need saying, since the military leadership hates Trump and is devoutly apolitical anyway.
Edited by nrjxll on Nov 19th 2020 at 8:21:05 AM
Which is not a coup, it's a bunch of legislators asking for the governor to have every reason to arrest them. Again, they legally have no standing to appoint electors, and if they try to do so without passing a law (a law which, of course, will be vetoed) then they're trying to illegally break election law.
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If McConnell was able to get away with corrupting the Judiciary, Biden should use his tactics against him. He should use whatever powers he has to ensure the GOP is weakened, and then staff the Judiciary back to Dem control. If the Republicans cry foul, too bad. Biden can confirm more judges than Trump if the Senate goes back to the Dems.
And if some of the "Trump judges" are too problematic, Biden should get rid of them and replace them with progressive ones entirely. All whatever it takes to ensure the GOP never wins a presidency or Congress ever again.
Edited by clemont107 on Nov 19th 2020 at 9:32:07 AM
"Wow, no Mega Togekiss in Legends Z-A. Or any non-Froslass new Sinnoh Mega Evolutions. Round of applause, everybody." - DawnEven a legislative coup like you’re proposing risks senators dying, it’s blatantly illegal and anti-democratic (small d), we’ve got at least one Democrat senator on the record as willing to die to stop that happening.
That’s why the Michigan Republicans won’t do it, because the best case scenario for them is they get arrested, the worst case scenario is that they are either declared a sedition movement and shot by national guardsmen or an angry mob establishes a democratic majority in Michigan by outright killing enough Republicans.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran

I want to post that in that Discord server with a buncha Trumpsters but I bet they're going to immediately claim biased news because it's CNN and I'm pondering if it's even worth the headache.