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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#340051: Nov 18th 2020 at 6:25:46 PM

And the sooner those younger people start building up their resumes and skills, the sooner they can enter into higher level politics while still being relatively young (ie; Obama).

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#340052: Nov 18th 2020 at 6:30:16 PM

I don't know if this is true, but I heard Illinois becoming a reliable blue state is in part due to Obama's efforts back when he was a community organizer. Sort of like Stacey Abrams, in a way.

nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#340053: Nov 18th 2020 at 6:39:18 PM

The more I think about it, it's an enormous red flag that an actor, who thus far has been very apolitical to the point that I can find almost nothing about his political beliefs, not even whether he's a Democrat or a Republican, suddenly decides that he is qualified to run for Governor. Not a lower office, not something like county judge, state legislator, or the House. Governor.

At least some other celebrities, as @clement107 mentioned, do advocacy work or are activists for good causes. McConaughey hasn't really done anything in that sphere, AFAIK.

And from an interview he did with Esquire, he sounds to me like a bothsider centrist who doesn't really pay attention to politics except to think that it's broken.

MM: I hope so. We have great distrust in the government, we don't believe them, what leaders should lead them. We're looking at politics and we're going, What's your purpose? What is politics? It sounds like a broken business. We're supposed to follow you, you're leaders? It sounds like a pep rally. All these stations put the news out and it all sounds like soft pornography. When we don't trust ourselves, then all of a sudden we don't trust others. That can lead to anarchy. We gotta find a common denominator with which we can go, Hey, I don't care what church you go to, I don't care what side of the aisle in the White House you sit on, or the capital, and what do we agree on? What are our common denominators? I think it’s gonna certain values that we can rely on.

Democrats actually have a pretty decent bench in Texas. Let's please not elevate this guy.


[up] Illinois turning blue was after Obama's time as community organizer (I checked Wikipedia, and it seemed to be focused mostly on local issues, unlike Abrams' focus on voting rights. So I don't know that he had much to do with it.

Edited by nova92 on Nov 18th 2020 at 7:25:06 AM

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#340055: Nov 18th 2020 at 9:10:38 PM

Edited by rmctagg09 on Nov 18th 2020 at 12:10:49 PM

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#340056: Nov 18th 2020 at 9:16:18 PM

No, I don't.

But it is horrifying that the President continues to try to subvert democracy this way and there's so little outrage.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Nov 18th 2020 at 9:17:11 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Ayasugi Since: Oct, 2010
#340057: Nov 18th 2020 at 9:17:23 PM

Maybe his next case will get a 4-3 ruling from the PA Supreme Court, or even 3-4. That is that even more justices will consider the entire case a waste of their time and something they shouldn't even have heard at all.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#340058: Nov 18th 2020 at 9:33:52 PM

Admittedly a big part of it I imagine is there's...not a lot to do, since he's already lost the election, so outrage can't really do much that isn't already being done.

Leviticus 19:34
Shaoken (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#340059: Nov 18th 2020 at 9:51:40 PM

Trump has been losing his cases largely because there isn't any legal arguments to be actually made. His PA case in Federal Court will get tossed because ultimately it's two Republican voters who weren't given the opportunity to cure their own ballots by their own counties, so they're suing all other counties to get them to throw out their ballots to hand Trump the election. With any luck Rudy will get penalized by the court for wasting their time and Trump's time (as they legally have an obligation to not file meritless lawsuits on behalf of their client).

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#340060: Nov 18th 2020 at 10:17:39 PM

Courts are not going to rule in Trump's favour that two voters' inability to cure their ballots, or that some counties not going beyond their legal requirements, is cause to force an entire state to assign its electors to someone else.

You have to wonder how they keep replacing the lawyers that leave.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#340061: Nov 18th 2020 at 10:22:54 PM

Hungry lawyers gotta pay for their next meals somehow.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#340062: Nov 18th 2020 at 10:23:21 PM

The USA's rife with lawyers, albeit not all of the same caliber. And you gotta take whatever job you can get in this economy.

Edited by M84 on Nov 19th 2020 at 2:23:29 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#340063: Nov 18th 2020 at 10:30:38 PM

Totalus Rankium, which reviews and rates all the presidents, was increasingly incredulous at just how many people became lawyers in the US as they went down the list of presidents and almost every one so far was a lawyer at some point in their careers.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#340064: Nov 18th 2020 at 11:56:43 PM

The lawsuit of Pennyslvania is the nastiest attempt to overthrow Democracy so far, though.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#340065: Nov 19th 2020 at 12:02:50 AM

They'll probably top themselves by next week with an even more shameless attempt.

Disgusted, but not surprised
TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#340066: Nov 19th 2020 at 12:41:36 AM

This is kinda good news, in a way. Giuliani's incompetence (man couldn't even define "opaque" for fuck's sake) makes it all the more likely the suits are going to be dismissed out of hand.

CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#340067: Nov 19th 2020 at 1:39:31 AM

Apparently they are trying to do the same in Georgia, according to AP News...

Edited by CookingCat on Nov 19th 2020 at 1:40:05 AM

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#340068: Nov 19th 2020 at 3:57:57 AM

It looks like the Georgia recount is not only going as expected (i.e no big changes), some small counties after recounting are reporting the exact same tallies as before. That and experiences elsewhere indicate that this election went through very well, with no widespread irregularities or the like. The article notes that this has drawn praise in some places.

Also, regarding the Georgia Secretary of State Trump Campaign Officials Started Pressuring Georgia’s Secretary of State Long Before the Election. A refreshing break from Kemp although still with a "too good to be true" timbre.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#340069: Nov 19th 2020 at 4:26:48 AM

Turns out that some Republican officials at the state level aren't willing to commit serious felonies just because Trump wants them to.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#340070: Nov 19th 2020 at 4:30:28 AM

Even Evil Has Standards or Pragmatic Villainy, take your pick.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#340071: Nov 19th 2020 at 4:32:12 AM

They probably also don't want to piss off the people of Georgia even more with two run-off elections coming up.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#340072: Nov 19th 2020 at 4:34:46 AM

Only question right now is, when does this circus finally end? Will they drag it out until January?

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#340073: Nov 19th 2020 at 4:36:50 AM

The only thing that'd keep him from doing so is running out of money to pay for recounts and lawsuits.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#340074: Nov 19th 2020 at 4:37:57 AM

I suspect the legal circus ends in early December when the contested states certify their results.

The political and social media acts will go on.

Edited by Rationalinsanity on Nov 19th 2020 at 8:38:24 AM

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#340075: Nov 19th 2020 at 5:10:50 AM

That was the reason why Bush v Gore went to the Supreme Court, because everybody BUT FL was able to certify the results before the deadline and FL wasn't going to be able to.


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