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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#340001: Nov 18th 2020 at 12:04:09 PM

AOC is super young and for all of her idealism, she still has extremely little political experience.

Letting her run for president would be totally stupid.

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#340002: Nov 18th 2020 at 12:12:16 PM

I don't even know why people keep talking about AOC in terms of any higher political office at this moment. She doesn't even seem to want to, and she isn't stupid, she knows she isn't that popular nationwide and would likely get crushed. IIRC she even went so far as to say she isn't sure how much longer she wants to stay in politics because of all the stress and shit-flinging that she gets put through.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Nov 18th 2020 at 5:14:36 PM

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#340003: Nov 18th 2020 at 12:15:01 PM

Because a lot of people have a president-centered view of US politics. That's a problem both in this thread and in the wider world.

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#340004: Nov 18th 2020 at 12:32:36 PM

> Letting her run for president would be totally stupid.

It would be a learning experience for her,and I know plenty of politicans run for the Presidency when they've got no chance of winning,you can get a lot of out of Presidential campaign if you're lucky

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#340005: Nov 18th 2020 at 12:39:11 PM

Give her more time first. Have her work her way up the ranks the normal way. Cutting corners is how the GOP got Trump.

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ScubaWolf from South Carolina Since: Feb, 2020
#340006: Nov 18th 2020 at 12:45:45 PM

Give her the rest of her Representative term (until next time she can be elected), have her go into the Senate and win, and have her 2 terms of that before having her go for President. We want experienced people here.

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Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#340007: Nov 18th 2020 at 12:47:13 PM

To echo Draghinazzo, this all seems pretty moot when there's zero indication that she would want to be president and greater than zero that she doesn't?

Edited by Perseus on Nov 19th 2020 at 7:52:12 AM

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#340009: Nov 18th 2020 at 1:16:46 PM

AOC on running for President:

“I want to level with all of you, I’m not a person that aspires to a position, I aspire to a mission,” she said in the social media video. “We can’t swing from one savior to another. There’s a lot of saviour-ism in politics, like ‘Who’s next?’ and ‘Who’s gonna save us?’ And the answer is you. The answer is people.”

Progressives: She's so smart. I can't wait for her to be the leader of the progressive and vote for her.

Like, what does it say that when the people who likes the progressive woman of color still doesn't really listen to her?

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#340010: Nov 18th 2020 at 1:20:52 PM

[up][up]What a petty Slimeball. He will never accept the results and move on. People should just ignore him, because he's only asking for the one thing he loves most: attention. If people, including news outlets, ignore Donald, they deprive him of his necessity.

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#340011: Nov 18th 2020 at 1:24:08 PM

By the way, Biden will probably start announcing cabinet members after Thanksgiving.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#340012: Nov 18th 2020 at 1:25:34 PM

So Biden's getting his cabinet members on of a Black Friday Deal?

Edited by Protagonist506 on Nov 18th 2020 at 1:25:45 AM

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Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#340013: Nov 18th 2020 at 1:28:24 PM

[up][up][up][up]It is a good attitude on AOC’s part, and it’s fine for a person to simultaneously want to be involved in politics and advocacy and want to vote for someone progressive who is inclined to listen to you and share your ideals.

To me, that attitude rather than specific policy differences was the big difference between the Sanders and Warren campaigns. Sanders’ was focused on “we will make change, together'' while Warren’s slogan (“She’s got a plan for that”) was focused on her fixing things. The populist-technocrat divide (both of those terms are negative-connoted, but I wan’t come up with better ones at the moment) is substantial. Obama’s electoral success was rooted in appealing to both.

Edited by Galadriel on Nov 18th 2020 at 4:29:22 AM

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#340014: Nov 18th 2020 at 1:33:41 PM

Where's he getting the money for this recount? Last I heard his campaign was flat broke.

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#340015: Nov 18th 2020 at 1:34:39 PM

Donations, maybe?

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#340016: Nov 18th 2020 at 1:35:36 PM

Money from his billions I imagine

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#340017: Nov 18th 2020 at 1:36:39 PM

Protag: [lol]

Trump has been soliciting donation for a while now. Last I checked a full recount in Wisconsin would cost 8 million, so he's going for the discount option.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#340018: Nov 18th 2020 at 1:39:18 PM

Matthew McConaughey told a radio show he is considering a run for Texas governor.

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ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#340019: Nov 18th 2020 at 1:49:43 PM

[up]Am I the only one who immediately googled to find out his politic party and stances? After Tuberville, it is clear anything goes.

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#340020: Nov 18th 2020 at 1:51:08 PM

[up]That snippet from the news story doesn't tell me anything about his politics either.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#340021: Nov 18th 2020 at 1:57:26 PM

Well, given that Texas' Lt. Gov was among those advocating for reopening because "The economy could die!" while blithely ignoring that real people could die from COVID... could they genuinely do much worse?

Esquire has an interview with him, and given that it was part of a memoir promotion, this statement on the radio may be something in the same vein.

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Doesn't seem that McC holds that view - and part of that interview does resonate, in which he talks about how "people are elastic" when it comes to change - some will stay in the new spot, while others will revert to exactly how they used to be before The Event (in this particular case, COVID) even started.

Edited by ironballs16 on Nov 18th 2020 at 5:05:07 AM

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#340022: Nov 18th 2020 at 1:59:58 PM

Honestly, if it takes McConaughey to turn Texas Blue, I say we bite the bullet and take it. Of course he could also lose, which is a more probable reality, but I tend to be an optimistic individual.

Of course he'd also have to win the Primary fair and square...

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#340023: Nov 18th 2020 at 2:00:22 PM

Tempting Fate, much? Florida's governor was peddling dangerous misinformation about COVID-19 being harmless to children and athletes, how far do you want to look?

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#340024: Nov 18th 2020 at 2:05:44 PM

His interview doesn't really give a lot of insight into his politics other than making him sound vaguely centrist.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#340025: Nov 18th 2020 at 2:08:46 PM

Well, for Texas, centrist would still be a hell of an improvement.

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