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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#339426: Nov 15th 2020 at 11:28:17 AM

Worrying about what Trump doing this and some of the Republicans go about signify for the future is one thing, but worrying whether it will actually succeed or not is just not justifiable at this point.

I've felt that but the entire Senate but for Mitt Romney (and I hate Romney) backed him out of impeachment.

Mitch I know is a monster and still controls the Senate.

The Supreme Court is also rigged.

I don't take anything for granted.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Nov 15th 2020 at 11:29:00 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#339427: Nov 15th 2020 at 11:33:22 AM

The problem is that "not taking anything for granted" in this case means ignoring or downplaying the evidence. Biden had a solid victory, the odds of Trump just magically stealing the election are incredibly low.

If the Supreme Court tried to do this then the states would just ignore them and we'd get rioting in the streets.

The actual threat is not Trump holding onto power when it's almost entirely slipped out of his fingers, no, the issue is the Republican Party's authoritarianism which will definitely outlast Trump one way or another.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
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#339428: Nov 15th 2020 at 11:56:19 AM

Consider that Trump has no real support left. His legal team has abandoned his, his party has moved on, the courts have tossed him aside... all he has now are what few sycophants are still sticking with him and whoever's too scared of him to go against him. You're not gonna overturn an election with a group that small.

i'm tired, my friend
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#339429: Nov 15th 2020 at 12:00:21 PM

I sincerely hope so but I'm not going to feel safe until he's out of the White House.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#339430: Nov 15th 2020 at 12:02:38 PM

Then you'll feel safe on January 21st (or is it the 20th? I forget).

i'm tired, my friend
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#339431: Nov 15th 2020 at 12:04:15 PM

I mean. Trump has spend the past twelve days trying and failing to find a way of stealing the election that could even theoretically work. And with every day that passes, it becomes less likely that he'll ever find one- if anyone working for him had any practical ideas towards that end, they would've pursued them by now. And, indeed, the number of people working for him is also decreasing pretty steadily, which also decreases the chances of them coming up with anything.

There comes a point where 'not taking anything for granted' is just giving yourself anxiety. And, indeed, it's letting yourself believe the 'election's not over' narrative that Trump's pushing. But, y'know, the election is over. Even Trump has stopped denying that- he's moved on from 'I haven't lost yet' to 'I only lost because they cheated'.

Edited by Gilphon on Nov 15th 2020 at 3:05:14 PM

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#339432: Nov 15th 2020 at 12:32:27 PM

I sincerely hope so but I'm not going to feel safe until he's out of the White House.

~CharlesPhipps That's fair enough, I would hardly begrudge someone's rather understandable emotional response smile

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#339433: Nov 15th 2020 at 12:41:23 PM

Thank you.

I guess what I'm saying is that maybe I feel like people are understating how much danger there still is when the President of the United States is still fighting his loss.

I'd feel much better with more overt smacking down of the right wing denial.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#339434: Nov 15th 2020 at 1:02:37 PM

Yeah, I'm not relaxing until Biden is inaugerated and his ass is behind that desk in the oval office.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
AnoBakaDesu Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
#339435: Nov 15th 2020 at 2:02:52 PM

On CNN: according to Brett Giroir, the WH testing czar, Trump hasn't attended a coronavirus Task Force meeting in 5 months!

"They played us like a DAMN FIDDLE!" — Kazuhira Miller, Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#339437: Nov 15th 2020 at 2:18:21 PM

Trump was not a politician up until he ran for office seriously in 2016 (he had been a political figure before as the origin of the birther movement, and also from the doomed bid for President in 2000 for the Reform Party) but I'd argue that once he clinched the Republican nomination, he was from then on, a politician.
Can we please stop repeating this myth? Birtherism had been kicking around since 2008 and Trump only really came out swinging in favor of the conspiracy theory in 2010. He was the biggest and most famous guy promoting it, but it had been going for quite a while when he started promoting it.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#339438: Nov 15th 2020 at 3:07:34 PM

Didn't Birther BS come up before Obama even won the primaries?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#339439: Nov 15th 2020 at 3:23:01 PM

Yes the 'Birthers' started in 2008 and had died down a bit till it re-surged with Trump IIRC

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
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#339441: Nov 15th 2020 at 3:26:20 PM

What'd he say?

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#339442: Nov 15th 2020 at 3:27:45 PM

John Bolton was one of the dumbest people in government that I’ve had the “pleasure” to work with. A sullen, dull and quiet guy, he added nothing to National Security except, “Gee, let’s go to war.” Also, illegally released much Classified Information. A real dope!

As if Donald is in any place to talk shit lol

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#339443: Nov 15th 2020 at 3:28:05 PM

"John Bolton was one of the dumbest people in government that I’ve had the “pleasure” to work with. A sullen, dull and quiet guy, he added nothing to National Security except, “Gee, let’s go to war.” Also, illegally released much Classified Information. A real dope!"

It sounds like he's talking about himself there..

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#339444: Nov 15th 2020 at 3:29:04 PM

I'm gonna take a wild guess and assume Bolton was on TV minutes before this tweet.

clemont107 Mega Togekiss?! from Land of Missed Opportunities (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Mega Togekiss?!
#339445: Nov 15th 2020 at 3:36:38 PM

[up][up]I think Trump's talking about himself when he "talks" about other people. Whatever faults he has he projects to others. When he talks about "Crooked Hillary" it signals that he himself is "crooked". When he talks about "Sleepy Joe" it means that he himself is getting weaker and weaker every day. When he attacks "Liddle Adam Schitt" it shows that he himself feels small in front of other people, like an Inferiority Superiority Complex.

Edited by clemont107 on Nov 15th 2020 at 6:38:28 AM

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PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#339446: Nov 15th 2020 at 3:36:40 PM

[up][up][up]He said "quiet", so no.

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Nov 15th 2020 at 6:36:51 AM

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#339447: Nov 15th 2020 at 3:50:08 PM

That sounds too coherent to be from Trump.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#339448: Nov 15th 2020 at 3:53:59 PM

Agreed, it sounds so much like a prepared statement.

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#339449: Nov 15th 2020 at 3:57:44 PM

This is why Trump insulted Bolton: Today Bolton told Republicans to stop babying Trump and to tell their voters, and Trump, that Biden won the election fair and square.

So of course, Trump lashes out at Bolton in retaliation.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#339450: Nov 15th 2020 at 4:35:56 PM

They chose Trump over Bolton.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.

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