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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#339401: Nov 15th 2020 at 7:41:04 AM

Can't do that, Trump's base would eat them alive if they went against him

The opposite needs to be true as well. Because they need to be aware that the consequences are equally bad for denying democracy.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#339402: Nov 15th 2020 at 7:41:11 AM

When he said "no a politician" is that he have not experience there and is outside the typical convention of politicians, some people though is beligerant bully behavior were brutal honesty over the typically tendency of politicians to be polite even when shit is awful.

And redmass touch a good point, trump incompetent is a big part of why he lost, a sightly more competent populist would probably state for second term, that is a scary thought

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#339403: Nov 15th 2020 at 7:55:18 AM

Thanks, yeah, that is what I meant, he is not a politician in the traditional sense, and at any rate he isn't a very good politician altogether.

The biggest danger now is that we get a second Trumpist who is actually a competent politician.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#339404: Nov 15th 2020 at 8:00:10 AM

https://news.yahoo.com/rep-jim-banks-calls-punishment-191605443.html

This is a pretty big bit of information but apparently the Special Forces and soldiers in Syria never actually withdrew at all from the positions they were ordered to despite Trump's orders. It's both mutiny and uh, well, the right moral decision. Someone needs to update CALL OF DUTY (2018)'s webpage and establish that scene is apparently just true to life. Trump is, of course, furious about the fact the military disobeying him.

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#339405: Nov 15th 2020 at 8:04:54 AM

It’s not a mutiny, it’s a bureaucratic shell game where Trump agreed to keep troops there based on the information he was provided. I’d bet good money that nobody ever defied an order.

The special envoy is an idiot, if you’re playing bureaucratic shell games to get political sign-off on something, you don’t openly state that that’s what you’re doing.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#339406: Nov 15th 2020 at 8:06:24 AM

I think this is the opposite of Evil Gloating.

Maybe "The Reason You Suck" Speech.

They think Trump's reign is over.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Nov 15th 2020 at 8:06:44 AM

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#339407: Nov 15th 2020 at 8:08:53 AM

Charles: right now the republican are in tightrope: the cat is out the bag since republican fanbase turn rabid thanks to trump but they can't follow him in his madness.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#339408: Nov 15th 2020 at 8:11:30 AM

Charles: right now the republican are in tightrope: the cat is out the bag since republican fanbase turn rabid thanks to trump but they can't follow him in his madness.

If they don't call the election for Trump then it will only get worse. It needs to end now and everyone should be terrified if not.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Nov 15th 2020 at 8:11:57 AM

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#339409: Nov 15th 2020 at 8:32:35 AM

You mean for Biden, I think?

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#339411: Nov 15th 2020 at 8:47:49 AM

He'll need a disguise and an alter ego,she'll never seen it coming..

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nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#339412: Nov 15th 2020 at 9:56:21 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think any former president has ever worked for an administration after his own term ended. There's been ones who became SC justices but that's about it.

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#339413: Nov 15th 2020 at 10:24:26 AM

Justice Barack Obama. Now wouldn't that be nice.

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#339414: Nov 15th 2020 at 10:25:26 AM

[up] I fully endorse it. Should probably who replaces Clarence Thomas to be honest.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#339415: Nov 15th 2020 at 10:41:49 AM

I was listening to the Lincoln Project podcast, and apparently, Trump’s state department is trying to slow the transition process (whether this comes out of sheer incompetence, active malice, or both, remains to be seen)

In the 1963 Presidential Transition act, it’s up to the General Services Administration to determine or a ascertain the winner of the presidential election before the transition process. Among the key aspects of the transition process, are access to the DOS Operation Center, government records of calls from foreign leaders, and access to presidential daily briefings.

Perhaps predictably, none of this has happened yet. The current head of the General Services Administration, Emily Murphy has not made that determination, and the State Department is sitting on all of the messages from Foreign leaders for President Elect Biden, forcing them to reach out to Obama era diplomats to talk to Biden.

Edited by megaeliz on Nov 15th 2020 at 1:46:15 PM

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#339416: Nov 15th 2020 at 10:47:08 AM

Has there ever been a case where presidential inauguration was delayed?

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#339417: Nov 15th 2020 at 10:57:32 AM

[up][up] Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Obama have more legal credentials than Amy Barret, Presidential experience aside?

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#339418: Nov 15th 2020 at 11:00:40 AM

He was a civil rights attorney alongside being an Illinois senator, which I suppose is more experience than being a law teacher.

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#339419: Nov 15th 2020 at 11:00:58 AM

He's been an attorney, a law professor, a state senator, a U.S. Senator and a President. So yes, I'd say so

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#339420: Nov 15th 2020 at 11:10:06 AM

Emily Murphy needs to be investigated once Biden gets in. I doubt Sedition charges would stick (I can dream), but she has to be breaking some law.

At the very least, the public sector should blacklist her.

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ScubaWolf from South Carolina Since: Feb, 2020
#339421: Nov 15th 2020 at 11:10:53 AM

At this point it's seems to me some people actually enjoy panicking and fantasizing about the US going down in flames no matter what evidence is right in front of them.
You have to forgive us, there's historical precedence for the rise of fascism thanks to well known events in the past, and a lot of us just have PTSD from the past four years so any sign things will get better feels like a possible Hope Spot in our minds.

Edited by ScubaWolf on Nov 15th 2020 at 2:11:13 PM

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#339422: Nov 15th 2020 at 11:12:42 AM

When you have a fascist actually trying to steal an election and who is an existential threat to the lives of the poor, sexual, and racial minorities—no, it's not doomsaying.

To use a joke, "Not worrying about Doctor Doom is a luxury for people who don't live in Marvel's New York."

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#339423: Nov 15th 2020 at 11:17:07 AM

I mean, it is when every attempt has been flatly shutdown, and there's no indication any others will work.

Worrying about what Trump doing this and some of the Republicans go about signify for the future is one thing, but worrying whether it will actually succeed or not is just not justifiable at this point.

Edited by LSBK on Nov 15th 2020 at 1:17:27 PM

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#339424: Nov 15th 2020 at 11:20:49 AM

Donald the Demon King is too dumb and unpopular (even among his subordinates) to successfully steal this election. A lot of his cronies are only doing what he wants them to do out of fear of being harassed by him and his supporters if they refuse, and he cannot halt the inevitable inauguration of Immortan Joe.

As Thanos said, "it is inevitable."

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#339425: Nov 15th 2020 at 11:24:02 AM

In my view what matters is how one recognizes the threat.

Doomsaying: "Trump is trying to kill democracy and there's no hope"

Non-doomsaying: "Trump is trying to kill democracy and that's troubling, but all signs suggest that he is going to fail"

Both recognize his threat to democracy but one does it in a much more constructive (and rational) manner.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Nov 15th 2020 at 11:24:30 AM

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