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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#339326: Nov 14th 2020 at 5:54:07 AM

Apparently Trump is now kinda sorta acknowledging that he may not have a second term.

His loss seems to finally be sinking in a little. Give it another week or two and he may actually start railing against Biden's presidency.

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#339327: Nov 14th 2020 at 6:10:23 AM

[up]Details?

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#339328: Nov 14th 2020 at 6:40:12 AM

I heard it on the radio news, but it was in a speech on future corona measures. He was talking about what his administration would do in April, then started hesitatingly talking about how that might be something another administration could do as well.

I'm sure you'll start see other sources mention it soon enough.

Edited by Redmess on Nov 14th 2020 at 3:40:45 PM

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jjjj2 from Arrakis Since: Jul, 2015
#339329: Nov 14th 2020 at 6:40:37 AM

He's said that his administration will not be instituting a lock down. The way he said it, he seemed to implicitly acknowledge that he won't be in a position to inflict a lockdown. He still seems to be clinging to the idea that there might be a chance. [nja]'d

Edited by jjjj2 on Nov 14th 2020 at 9:40:48 AM

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MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#339330: Nov 14th 2020 at 6:46:21 AM

You know, one thing just struck me. These phony attempts to prove that there's been voter fraud might actually help mollify people who otherwise would have tried using violence to stop the imagined voter fraud.

Extreme right-wing people will be less likely to go to the streets, weapons in hands, if they think it'll be handled by the courts.

Edited by MichaelKatsuro on Nov 14th 2020 at 3:47:07 PM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#339331: Nov 14th 2020 at 6:50:20 AM

I think you're absolutely right there, these lawsuits do calm things down. In that regard, they are a good thing for Democrats too, especially since judges are more than willing to show just why there is nothing to them.

I think Democrats could easily make hay out of this and talk about how this demonstrates that the election process is indeed much more secure than the public thinks.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#339332: Nov 14th 2020 at 6:53:07 AM

I think that if they're ticking time bombs and terrorists that it's a bad thing that they are just waiting it out versus getting arrested.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#339333: Nov 14th 2020 at 7:00:05 AM

Most people distrusting elections are not ticking time bombs. They just don't trust the system.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#339334: Nov 14th 2020 at 7:27:53 AM

These people are because they are following Trump's narrative and threatening violence.

Qanon planned on assaulting polling stations and other tactics but their entire facebook profile was deleted on election day and they couldn't coordinate because of it.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#339335: Nov 14th 2020 at 7:40:40 AM

Oh, sure, but there are a lot more people who distrust voting results but are not threatening any violence over it.

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Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#339336: Nov 14th 2020 at 8:37:34 AM

While the cases do calm things down in the short term it seems pretty clear now that the conspiracies regarding the election being fraudulent and "deep state" stuff is here to stay regardless.

There might not be any violence now but an uptick in right-wing terrorism still seems pretty likely even now. And I would expect the Republicans will maintain their authoritarian streak and probably solidify it even further.

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#339337: Nov 14th 2020 at 8:46:56 AM

At the same time, I'm seeing a bunch of people in a server I'm in constantly sharing 'news' of voter fraud happening, without proof, and sometimes even just assuming there's fraud happening when there's no indication of it. Like an email sent by the Delaware county PA about missing data that needs to be correlated before they can give the results (rather than understand it's a normal procedure to make sure the data's correct, they immediately suspect foul play), or the deleted Twitter account of someone who insists they posted proof of Pennsylvania preventing meaningful access to poll watchers.

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#339338: Nov 14th 2020 at 8:55:40 AM

On Dec 18th Trump will twitter rant about how President Biden hasn't fixed Covid yet

Edited by 3of4 on Nov 14th 2020 at 5:56:15 PM

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#339339: Nov 14th 2020 at 9:01:50 AM

He still seems to be clinging to the idea that there might be a chance

Boy, comparisons to Dumb and Dumber abound with that one - "What was all that 'one in a million' talk?" The difference being, of course, that Lloyd and Harry were lovable oafs who weren't in positions of power and responsibility.

Edited by ironballs16 on Nov 14th 2020 at 12:03:57 PM

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#339340: Nov 14th 2020 at 9:13:45 AM

[up][up] And on January 21, Twitter will ban him and the world will be a much quieter place.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#339341: Nov 14th 2020 at 9:15:27 AM

It isn't Trump being dumb, he is just in full denial mode.

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#339342: Nov 14th 2020 at 9:48:53 AM

Of course, there isn't much difference to how he normally acts, so it's hard to know something changed.

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#339343: Nov 14th 2020 at 10:36:09 AM

You know how back when the Missouri Compromise was replaced by the Kansas Nebraska Act and let a new state decide whether it wanted to be free or slavers based on popular vote? And how that led to large amounts of pro and antislavery supporters coming to settle Kansas to sway the vote one way or the other?

I wonder how feasible it would be to organize a modern version of that to encourage Democrats from safe states to move to the sun/rust belt.

Edited by Parable on Nov 14th 2020 at 10:36:47 AM

ryanasaurus0077 Since: Jul, 2009
#339344: Nov 14th 2020 at 10:44:26 AM

I'm starting to think the only reason Trump decided to hold a rally at Four Seasons Total Landscaping is because he wanted a distraction as he was making funeral arrangements for himself and his wife across the street. (That, or he wanted one last masturbation before the law comes down hard on him in New York after January 20.) Is it time for Team Trump to stage an intervention at this point?

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#339345: Nov 14th 2020 at 11:31:09 AM

No, the Four Seasons thing seems to have been a genuine mistake. A really stupid one, but a mistake nonetheless. I can't imagine Trump actually wanting to hold anything, much less a rally, at such a place.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#339346: Nov 14th 2020 at 11:34:39 AM

I wonder how feasible it would be to organize a modern version of that to encourage Democrats from safe states to move to the sun/rust belt.

I've stated many times the issue is not that the voters aren't there but that they are disenfranchised and convinced their vote doesn't matter. Stacey Abrams is thankfully the first time I can say, "No, you're wrong about the South. It's that we're under a tyranny."

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ChrispyBacon Since: Oct, 2020
#339347: Nov 14th 2020 at 11:42:32 AM

To a certain extent that's already happening. North Carolina's Research Triangle, southeastern Nude Hamster (I'm from Massachusetts, I have to be snarky at our northern neighbor. It's in our constitution dammit!) and pretty much every major city in Texas are all examples.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#339348: Nov 14th 2020 at 11:57:45 AM

That's more to do with jobs and economic opportunity than politics as far as I'm aware, though it does help that these recent arrivals lean Democratic. It isn't happening fast enough to get us North Carolina or Texas though.

I'm talking about deliberate organization to get people to move to another state.

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#339349: Nov 14th 2020 at 12:29:05 PM

Also, it is aiming at the wrong states. You need to go to Montana, Alaska, Wyoming and these smaller states which are useless for presidential elections but are worth several Senate seats.

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#339350: Nov 14th 2020 at 12:43:47 PM

While you’re right compared to Texas it doesn’t hold for Georgia or North Carolina, the margin in North Carolina was 70,000 votes in Trump’s favour and in Georgia it was 14,000 in Biden favour (10,000 in Arizona), comparatively in Montana/North Dakota/South Dakota/Wyoming it was 100,000 in Trump’s favour. So even with the states being bigger the impact that several thousand people relocating would have is still bigger. Alaska might be the exception, as the margin there was 36,000.

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