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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#339101: Nov 12th 2020 at 11:08:05 PM

To be fair, a Republic is a vague enough concept IIRC that it does, in fact, include People's Republics.

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#339102: Nov 12th 2020 at 11:10:13 PM

The most basic definition of a republic is a country without a monarch, so almost all Peoples Republics Of Tyranny except for North Korea qualify as one.

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#339103: Nov 12th 2020 at 11:11:42 PM

Mostly by sheer coincidence, they still try.

Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#339104: Nov 12th 2020 at 11:15:58 PM

Yeah, okay. My point is understood beyond the semantic quibbles, yes?

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#339105: Nov 12th 2020 at 11:38:12 PM

"I will give the smallest benefit of the doubt and point out that the Nazi Party's full official name was the National Socialist German Workers' Party. National Socialism is also an alternative name for Nazism apparently. I could see someone stupid being confused by that."

Bet you 10 bucks Tuberville doesn't know that's what Nazi is short for.

nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#339106: Nov 12th 2020 at 11:42:43 PM

"You know, the thing about the Voting Rights Act it's, you know - there's a lot of different things you can look at it as, you know, who's it going to help? What direction do we need to go with it? I think it's important that everything we do we keep secure. We keep an eye on it. It's run by our government. And it's run to the, to the point that we, it's got structure to it. It's like education. I mean, it's got to have structure. Now for some reason, we look at things to change, to think we're gonna make it better, but we better do a lot of work on it before we make a change."

This is Tuberville, on the Voting Rights Act. So I think we can safely say that he's just ignorant. He sounds like this on everything.


edit:

Also note that despite speaking of the Supreme Court in his statement, Tuberville calls the House, Senate, and presidency the three branches of US government.

Hence why I added it as an example of him being an idiot.

Edited by nova92 on Nov 12th 2020 at 11:52:33 AM

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#339107: Nov 12th 2020 at 11:45:46 PM

The only people more ignorant than this chucklefuck are...everyone who voted for this guy.

Disgusted, but not surprised
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#339108: Nov 12th 2020 at 11:48:10 PM

They managed to find someone as blitheringly incoherent as Trump. I'm honestly impressed, it can't be THAT common to find someone like that who can get dragged into office.

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#339109: Nov 12th 2020 at 11:49:35 PM

I found that the main reasons a lot of right-wingers pretend the Nazis were socialists is because a) it makes it easier to demonise both socialists and "socialists" (i.e. anyone left of Hitler) and b) they actually really like a lot of what Hitler did, but don't want to admit to being fellow travellers of Nazism.

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#339110: Nov 12th 2020 at 11:56:16 PM

[up][up]It's more common than you'd think. The world is full of mini-Trumps.

It's just that most of them aren't fortunate enough to benefit from the wealth and connections and other privileges that shielded Donald Trump from the consequences of his own many, many failings.

Edited by M84 on Nov 13th 2020 at 3:56:32 AM

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#339111: Nov 13th 2020 at 12:14:37 AM

>I will give the smallest benefit of the doubt and point out that the Nazi Party's full official name was the National Socialist German Workers' Party. National Socialism is also an alternative name for Nazism apparently. I could see someone stupid being confused by that.

It was also why that name was chosen. It's a vague jumble of terms so that it can have broad appeal. There's a reason they're called Nazi's though, Natzional Socialistishes Deutsche Arbeiters Partei.

Edited by devak on Nov 13th 2020 at 9:15:15 PM

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#339112: Nov 13th 2020 at 12:22:45 AM

[up] As this Germanc caricature shows, the Nazis pretty much emphasised different parts of their name depending on if they were talking to the working class or the elites.

But I wouldn't give anyone today the benefit of the doubt, if they called the Nazis socialist, to be honest.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Nov 13th 2020 at 9:23:12 PM

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nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#339113: Nov 13th 2020 at 3:22:18 AM

Masks coming off (not that they were ever really on). Justice Samuel Alito delivered an address to the Federalist Society, in which he "abandoned any pretense of impartiality" and went on a "grievance-laden tirade" against everything from Democrats, to COVID-related restrictions, LGBTQ equality, and abortion.

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Alito also engaged in another regular lament from legal conservatives, complaining that law schools are hostile to those with right-of-center political views and others whose beliefs go against the majority viewpoint.

"Unfortunately, tolerance for opposing views is now in short supply in many law schools and in the broader academic community," the justice said. "When I speak with recent law school graduates, what I hear over and over is that they face harassment and retaliation if they say anything that departs from the law school orthodoxy."

He complained about lawmaking by an "elite group of appointed experts," citing not just COVID rules but the entire regulatory framework of the federal government.

The persecution complex and complete lack of self-awareness are incredible. The Federalist Society has nominated 6 Supreme Court Justices (5 of whom are still on the Court)! An "elite group of appointed experts", what else do you think the Supreme Court is?

Alito went on to "suggest that the pressure Christians face surrounding their religious beliefs is akin to the strictures the U.S. placed on Germany and Japan after World War II," alleging that "in certain corners, religious liberty is fast becoming a disfavored right. Then he attacked LGBTQ rights and the Obergefell vs. Hodges decision under the guise of religious intolerance.

The justice then complained that the Supreme Court's same-sex marriage ruling had crushed the free speech rights of anti-LGBTQ advocates by subjecting them to public criticism.


Alito argued that some recent Supreme Court decisions, including the landmark ruling upholding a constitutional right to same-sex marriage, fueled intolerance to those who believe marriage should be limited to unions between one man and one woman.

"Until very recently, that's what the vast majority of Americans thought. Now, it's considered bigotry," he said.

He also criticized COVID-related restrictions:

"We have never before seen restrictions as severe, extensive and prolonged," he said, and added that the pandemic has resulted in "previously unimaginable restrictions on individual liberty."

Other attacks were on abortion rights, Democratic Senators, the progressive movement. The entire thing is an 30-minute angry bigoted screed, soaked in grievance politics, all delivered in polite monotone. It almost seems like a parody, but no, it's real. Almost every sentence is as incredible as it is terrifying.

Not featured in the video but something else you should know about Justice Alito from Vox: Justice Alito's jurisprudence of white racial innocence

Edited by nova92 on Nov 13th 2020 at 3:37:35 AM

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#339114: Nov 13th 2020 at 3:32:16 AM

Wow. That reads like what a judge at a Nazi or Stalinist show trial would say.

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Makir Since: Feb, 2017
#339115: Nov 13th 2020 at 3:59:56 AM

Conservatives and fascists are experts in double-speak. To them, they aren't "Mask rules during a global pandemic", they're "unjustified violation of personal freedome", it's not "Egalitarian legislation", it's "Anti-White/Christian/American terrorism", or some other similiar level of bullshittery.

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#339116: Nov 13th 2020 at 4:12:48 AM

Doublespeak. I might have to start using that one.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#339117: Nov 13th 2020 at 4:20:26 AM

Let them bark. These dogs might sound vicious, but they ain't got any teeth left.

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#339118: Nov 13th 2020 at 4:20:31 AM

What was that about a justice serving as long as they remained in good behavior, doping the impartiality like that sounds like very good grounds for claiming its improper behavior.

Though that would require wining both runoffs.

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#339119: Nov 13th 2020 at 4:40:37 AM

There was a branch of the Nazis who were actually socialist, ideologically led by the Strasser brothers. By the time of WWII, they had been purged and Hitlerism was the Nazi way.

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#339120: Nov 13th 2020 at 6:21:50 AM

Ever notice how this kind of person only complains about lack of free speech when it's a right-winger who gets criticized?

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#339121: Nov 13th 2020 at 6:26:06 AM

Same-sex marriage is as anti-Christan as how people being allowed to eat pork is anti-Semitic and Islamophobic.

Edit: I meant that freedom of religion does not include the right to impose your religious beliefs on other people, but I think I worded it wrong.

Edited by minseok42 on Nov 13th 2020 at 11:53:09 PM

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#339122: Nov 13th 2020 at 6:28:15 AM

Even to that extent, it isn't. Pork is explicitly condemned multiple times in multiple clear ways, while the only reference to homosexuality at all is a single line that can be translated and interpreted multiple different ways.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Nov 13th 2020 at 7:28:42 AM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#339123: Nov 13th 2020 at 6:33:57 AM

The Political Gabfest noted something interesting: we haven't really seen Trump all that much since the election. Sure, he tweets, but he is apparently not really doing much beyond that.

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#339124: Nov 13th 2020 at 6:44:12 AM

[up][up] Just for reference, 57% of American Jews eat pork, with the caveat that this is a summary of a 2015 survey; I can't find the original survey.

(Most Reform Jews don't have a problem with pork, but I wouldn't offer it to a Conservative or Orthodox Jew.)

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#339125: Nov 13th 2020 at 6:44:35 AM

[up]x2 He's too busy gutting the government.

Edited by speedyboris on Nov 13th 2020 at 6:44:42 AM


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