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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
@Faithless Electors: I mean, I think the Dems are gonna make sure that all of their electors are true blue Dems. Hell, even Georgia's all Biden supporters. About the only thing that could sway them is a bribe, but they're so broke, they don't have anything to bribe them with.
Edited by kkhohoho on Nov 12th 2020 at 9:48:47 AM
If he gave them Cabinet positions, wouldn't they be out of the Senate, anyways? The only way I could see it being worth it is if it's for a minor position that doesn't affect much in exchange for a Senator with a Democratic governor who could appoint their replacement, but in that case, they'd have no reason to accept.
It may not surprise you to learn that Senator-elect Tommy Tuberville is an idiot, who doesn't understand much about history or the government. From a recent interview
And that's concerning to me that we're to the point now where we've got almost half the country voting for something that this country wasn't built on. Very concerning and, you know, as I tell people, my dad fought 76 years ago in Europe to free Europe of Socialism. Today, you look at this election, we have half this country that made some kind of movement, now they might not believe in it 100 percent, but they made some kind of movement toward socialism. So we're fighting it right here on our own soil. We've got to decide, you know, over the years which direction we're going, and that part's concerning to me.
I remember in 2000 Al Gore was president, United States, president elect, for 30 days - 30 days - and after 30 days, it got to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court says, no, George Bush is going to be the president. That's the problem we'll get into when we do a lot of guessing, and that's all it is right now. It's a guessing game of how these recounts are going to go and all the ballots coming in on some of these supposedly mail-in ballots.
Edited by nova92 on Nov 12th 2020 at 9:22:41 AM
Yeesh. Alabama really needs a mass voter registration and turnout movement like in Georgia.
And more broadly, Democrats need to repudiate accusations of being socialists much more stridently instead of not responding to them in Florida and other circles. Perhaps by having more Cubans and Venezuelans among them performing greater outreach by painting Republicans as the ones more similar to the regimes ruling their ancestral countries (and it wouldn't even be wrong, since the ruling parties in these countries stay in power by making sure the rules favor them and suppress all opposition). I don't think it has anything to do with whether progressive or centrist ideas should dominate the Democratic party, so much as just not letting your opponents get away with talking shit about you.
In US politics, why is it called the Blue Wall?
This is probably just my autism going nuts over something that's only meant as a loose term, but in no way does it look like a wall. If it's supposed to be like a line that stretches up the westcoast and along the border with Canada, then there's a giant hole in it with Idaho and Montana and North Dakota. XD
Edited by GNinja on Nov 12th 2020 at 5:59:38 PM
Kaze ni Nare!
It's a metaphor for political solidity. Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania have voted Democratic in presidential elections since 1992, so it came as a shock that Clinton lost all three of them in 2016. Biden focused heavily on winning them back and it payed off, although debatably at the price of Florida and Texas.
Edited by Alycus on Nov 12th 2020 at 10:21:02 AM
Also note that despite speaking of the Supreme Court in his statement, Tuberville calls the House, Senate, and presidency the three branches of US government.
Re: Biden's talks, my first thought was actually that he was talking to the Senators to try and get them to publicly repudiate Trump, or at least to stating Biden had won the election. Though I suppose that could be part of what they're offering in exchange for not going down with the Cheeto. If so...whether it's worth it depends on who the particular Senators are, and if they keep their word, which, well... Even then, I still think getting nominations/legislation passed is more important, and I can't see them agreeing to that let alone following through. But, he still has to try at least.
Edited by Ingonyama on Nov 12th 2020 at 10:25:08 AM
I will give the smallest benefit of the doubt and point out that the Nazi Party's full official name was the National Socialist German Workers' Party. National Socialism is also an alternative name for Nazism apparently. I could see someone stupid being confused by that.
He's still a supreme moron though.
Edited by Karxrida on Nov 12th 2020 at 10:53:50 AM
The Nazis were socialist in the way a People's Republic of Tyranny is a republic. Anyone who doesn't know that is just an ignorant twit, benefit of the doubt be damned.
Edited by Perseus on Nov 13th 2020 at 6:07:56 AM

Cheat other ways.
The Republicans have long since killed the EC and its purpose to protect the American people from the ghosts of the Confederacy as well as keeping monsters from office.
They should get rid of it because they've already destroyed it as a pillar of democracy.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Nov 12th 2020 at 6:59:58 AM
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