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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Which, you might notice, is a thing I agree with and have repeated. Though, as LSBK pointed, just giving citizenship to those who don't have might cause problems itself. Which is why I argue that the these problem should be tackled instead of just shrugging and saying "then keeping how it is now is fine".
Frankly, it is hard to take serious the claims it is my fault the miscommunication when people literally throw back my arguments at me. I literally just talked about how things shouldn't be a binary. It feels more like people make their minds about what my argument is instead of actually listening to what I've said.
That is literally my argument.
Edited by Heatth on Nov 11th 2020 at 9:57:48 AM
If the idea is to change the results of becoming a state from what those results are currently, I don't even think that's within the realm of possibility. Even statehood being granted is beyond unlikely, but that's at least theoretically an actual option.
Edited by ShinyCottonCandy on Nov 11th 2020 at 7:58:45 AM
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Biden to appoint Ron Klain as Chief of Staff
I've heard of him here and there but don't know much about him. Is he a good pick?
Solid "meh" from me. He has a lot of administrative experience, and is well-acquainted with Biden, which is good. But it also means he's not really going to take risks, which could be a bad thing on the progressive policy front since it maintains the centrist gerontocracy.
On the other hand this potentially bodes well for the COVID response which is something we sorely need right now.
Edited by AlleyOop on Nov 11th 2020 at 8:28:00 AM
CNN's
and Washington Post's
writeups on the matter do both seem to point to Klain being hired specifically for his experience leading the Ebola crisis and subsequent expertise in dealing with the COVID pandemic.
Edited by AlleyOop on Nov 11th 2020 at 8:27:22 AM
Honestly, I probably trust him more than I'd trust Rahm Emmanuel. He strikes me as Boring, but Practical, which would probably be useful for cleaning up with Trump's administrative havoc.
Ramh Emanuel would be a giant middle-finger. The last person I want is someone who completely fucked up the Laquan McDonald case.
Edited by jjjj2 on Nov 11th 2020 at 9:09:46 AM
You can only write so much in your forum signature. It's not fair that I want to write a piece of writing yet it will cut me off in the midChief of staff is not the most vital office, but they oversee a lot of administrative miscellany, so it's not a position to be taken lightly either. They function as a consigliere of sorts. Regarding Emmanuel, the warning signs were there from the beginning regarding his questionable character. Hence my low trust in him.
Klain on the other hand seems to a no-frills, but steady and competent advisor who is not likely to cause any seismic shifts within the White House, but given the tumult of the Trump administration, that's not a bad thing either.
Edited by AlleyOop on Nov 11th 2020 at 9:26:22 AM
I occasionally find Emmanuel personally sympathetic but besides being a horrendous Chicago mayor in many respects, he encouraged Obama to be conservative during his first term in a way that hindered his presidency.
So, I’m glad that Biden did not choose him.
Also, besides his pandemic experience, Klain was also Gore’s lawyer in Bush v. Gore. So he has experience with Republican election theft.
Edited by Hodor2 on Nov 11th 2020 at 8:31:27 AM
Well.
The story goes that he sliced off his finger in an accident, refused to get it treated because he'd rather go swimming, and nearly died from the ensuing infection. He treated it as a badge of honor regarding his toughness (which already sets some toxic masculinity warning bells), even though the reality to me at the time was that it was a close call with Too Stupid To Live. Ultimately indicative of his poor judgment skills that we saw on display during his mayorship of Chicago.
Edited by AlleyOop on Nov 11th 2020 at 9:33:00 AM
"Klain on the other hand seems to a no-frills, but steady and competent advisor who is not likely to cause any seismic shifts within the White House, but given the tumult of the Trump administration, that's not a bad thing either."
Someone in AOC'S Twitter comments joked that all these administration appointments will probably bring a sigh of relief when compared to the jokers and grifters who've occupied these positions the last four years.

I think the point about how maybe there could be a better solution than a purely binary one is sensible enough, it's worth considering how and why these people might want to remain in a situation we'd consider suboptimal, but yeah, it's not really our call to decide what these people want.