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Lazlo74 from A tropical hell-hole Since: May, 2018
#338826: Nov 11th 2020 at 11:17:07 AM

Is that why the mainstream media is their go-to boogeyman right now? They believe that the media is complicit on covering up fraud because they don't cover stories about the irregularities surrounding the election all that much and thus are trying to prevent the truth from getting out by biased and selective coverage. Sounds like a paranoid projection, which has always been their endgame.

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#338827: Nov 11th 2020 at 11:18:51 AM

Paranoid projection is the lifeblood of the republican party. You know that one guy who showed up in the nevada broadcast to yell about the "biden crime family" stealing the election? It's that exact energy.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#338828: Nov 11th 2020 at 11:20:00 AM

I was just trying to explain why “there is no reputable evidence of widespread voter fraud” is not a values statement to my grandma and aunt, and I hit on something both important and kinda obvious in hindsight.

I said, that according to multiple news sources, there was no substantial evidence of Voter Fraud, but if there was, I would be happy to reconsider.

Like, what I think is going on here (or a part of it at least), is a lack of self awareness for the cognitive tendency to cherry-pick evidence that supports preexisting narratives and biases, and dismiss everything else. They already have a conclusion before they look at the facts, and assume everyone else does the same thing, and when reality doesn’t match up, it’s reality that’s wrong, not them.

Does any of that make sense?

Edited by megaeliz on Nov 11th 2020 at 2:25:00 PM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#338829: Nov 11th 2020 at 11:23:27 AM

Distrust of the media is older than Trump, but Trump has really galvanized that distrust into outright hostility.

Maybe the US should get something more like a neutral public television news source, instead of often partisan public/cable news networks.

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#338830: Nov 11th 2020 at 11:25:31 AM

[up]Given how the right sees anything left of themselves as far-left, they won’t believe a neutral channel is neutral anyway, not that “neutral” is really possibe.

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#338831: Nov 11th 2020 at 11:33:40 AM

I feel like a "neutral" news network in practice would just be a bunch of the kind of bothsiding you see on networks like CNN.

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Nov 11th 2020 at 2:34:10 PM

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#338832: Nov 11th 2020 at 11:37:17 AM

The closest thing I can thing of is NPR. Which most Republicans don't trust.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#338833: Nov 11th 2020 at 11:38:44 AM

They think it stands for Not Peddling to Republicans, which they cannot abide.

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A procrastination in of itself
#338834: Nov 11th 2020 at 11:39:35 AM

PBS does technically do some news stuff, but it looks to be very limited and obviously runs into the issue of PBS not actually broadcasting its programs, just making them for others to broadcast.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#338835: Nov 11th 2020 at 11:59:14 AM

Loser.com redirects to Trump's Wikipedia page

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/525503-losercom-redirects-to-trumps-wikipedia-page

    An Excerpt 
An internet troll this week rerouted the domain for Loser.com to President Trump’s Wikipedia page as he refuses to concede last week’s election to President-elect Joe Biden.

The site began linking to Trump’s page on Monday after his Democratic opponent was projected by several news outlets as the winner of the White House race, according to The Independent.

The swap was noticed by social media users, including “Star Wars” actor and noted Trump critic Mark Hamill.

The page has previously been used to swipe at Trump, according to Snopes. In 2016, it directed users to the then-GOP presidential candidate’s Wikipedia page after Trump came in second in the Iowa caucuses.

The Loser.com domain name has reportedly been registered to Brian Connelly since 1995.

Connelly told The Daily Beast in 2015 that he has rerouted the domain several times over the years to knock various people, including rapper Kayne West and 2000 presidential candidate Al Gore. He sometimes links to positive things he wants to raise more awareness around, like the Wiki Leaks page in 2010 or former President Obama's campaign.

“That wasn’t against Obama’s election!” he said at the time. “That was just getting people to register.”

Earlier this year, he rerouted the page to show a video of Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) praising Biden in an ad created by Republican Voters Against Trump.

Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#338836: Nov 11th 2020 at 12:01:58 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] "Reality has a liberal bias", indeed.

clemont107 Mega Togekiss?! from Land of Missed Opportunities (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#338837: Nov 11th 2020 at 12:28:39 PM

[up][up]Wouldn't there be a "winner.com" that led to Biden's Wikipedia article?

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vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
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#338838: Nov 11th 2020 at 12:39:40 PM

Not too happy for my state, Thom Tillis won re-election. I think Trump won NC too.

Weird since Cooper retained his governorship pretty decisively, guess most people of either side were happy with his work?

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#338839: Nov 11th 2020 at 12:42:13 PM

[up]I think there are a lot of moderate Republicans/Libertarians in states such as North Carolina whom, unlike the Alt-Right, are not unwilling to vote for a Dem if they think he or she is popular enough and well-equipped to suit their priorities, but will usually vote for a conservative.

[down] And that too, yes. Idiot Ball at its finest.

Edited by clemont107 on Nov 11th 2020 at 3:47:01 PM

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#338840: Nov 11th 2020 at 12:44:58 PM

Yeah I expect that Cunningham cost himself a decent number of votes with his affair.

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vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#338841: Nov 11th 2020 at 12:47:34 PM

It’s crazy that this Senate seat was the most expensive overall yet

And it does seem like Democrats will not be able to regain Senate majority

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#338842: Nov 11th 2020 at 12:50:16 PM

Like I said earlier, this is what happens when a red wave and blue wave collide.

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#338843: Nov 11th 2020 at 12:53:28 PM

Even if the Senate is lost this year, it can be won in 2022 (and is much more likely to be won then). Regardless of what happens in Georgia, Biden must focus on taking executive actions and de-Trumpifying Republicans back towards the center.

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#338844: Nov 11th 2020 at 12:56:31 PM

de-Trumpifying Republicans back towards the center.

That ship has sailed, the only way Republicans would've possibly de-radicalized is if Trump was beaten in a landslide by Biden. But he very much wasn't, which means that Trumpism is alive and well.

The Republican Party is a far-right authoritarian nationalist party and that's not going to change anytime soon.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Nov 11th 2020 at 12:56:49 PM

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#338845: Nov 11th 2020 at 12:57:34 PM

Not without a hell of a push in Georgia, no.

That's taking the Senate, no matter what happens in Georgia, the GOP will remain borderline fascist asshats for the reasonable future.

Edited by Rationalinsanity on Nov 11th 2020 at 4:58:25 PM

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A procrastination in of itself
#338846: Nov 11th 2020 at 1:00:44 PM

Willing senate gains in a midterm is incredibly difficult, Republicans managed it in 2018 only because Democrats faced the hardest senate election map they ever had.

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#338847: Nov 11th 2020 at 1:07:07 PM

Georgia could go either way honestly. I'd probably give the edge to the (R) side just be default, but distrust in the electoral system on the Republican side combined with Georgia Democrats having very strong voter turnout infrastructure could easily swing things in the other direction.

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#338848: Nov 11th 2020 at 1:07:54 PM

Midterm precedents also generally assume the president's party beginning with a trifecta. When that doesn't happen, the usual logic seems to be off.

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#338849: Nov 11th 2020 at 1:12:55 PM

I feel like without 'getting rid of Trump' as a motivator, it's likely for Georgia Democrats to have a lower turnout in January. And considering how razor-thin Biden's margin was there... I'm personally not optimistic about how things'll go.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#338850: Nov 11th 2020 at 1:13:24 PM

I just hope we won't face another Curb-Stomp Battle against the Democrats in the 2022 house election, similar to 2014.

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