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Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#33851: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:25:04 PM

My God Romney owns voting Machines?!

Goddmit there is so much wrong with that. The federal government should be directly controlling those. Private companies shouldn't do anything but make the parts!

I'm baaaaaaack
Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#33852: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:25:26 PM

What do you call the state legislatures? Do you call them 'Congresses'?

What do you call their Houses?

For example, in Britain, we have three Assemblies (Wales, Greater London, Northern Ireland) and two Parliaments (United Kingdom, Scotland). Only the UK Parliament has two houses (Commons and Lords).

[up]...

Why are you guys a crappy democracy.

Why are you guys a crappy democracy.

Why are you guys a crappy democracy.

Why are you guys a crappy democracy.

edited 20th Oct '12 2:26:04 PM by Inhopelessguy

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#33853: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:26:17 PM

It probably varies based on the state although I think most just go with the Senate/House divide the federal government has.

[up]Probably because having any restrictions on free enterprise is bad.

[up][up][up]You're right. I'm thinking of what happens if a senator dies.

edited 20th Oct '12 2:27:18 PM by Kostya

Trivialis Since: Oct, 2011
#33854: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:29:35 PM

The weird thing is, UK government is quite asymmetric in nature, and yet it works.

Maybe Americans are more accustomed to complaining.

Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#33855: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:30:30 PM

UK government is quite asymmetric in nature, and yet it works.

Eh. Depends on what the policy area is. tongue

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#33856: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:31:06 PM

[up]

the major flaw in US Democracy is it was founded on a healthy helping of violently anti-britain ideals.

LostAnarchist Violence Is Necessary! from Neo Arcadia Itself Since: Sep, 2011
Violence Is Necessary!
#33857: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:31:10 PM

[up][up][up]We aren't accustomed to fighting for things that matter like the UK is...

[up]I'm all for instilling some of these ideas back into the overly-retarded population we have... We could use some of that to improve things around here.

edited 20th Oct '12 2:33:03 PM by LostAnarchist

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BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC!
#33858: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:32:56 PM

2 things:

1. "House of Commons" and "House of Lords" are not really any cooler terms than "Senate" or "House of Representatives." Actually, I think "House of Representatives" sounds way cooler and more democratic than "House of Lords." (The English terms for the Finnish institutions are "Parliament" and "Cabinet" (the official term is "Council of State") so our terms aren't really any better.) Besides, the EU has superior institutions: the European Parliament, the Council of the European Union, and the European Commission.

2. This is off-topic.

edited 20th Oct '12 2:34:00 PM by BestOf

Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.
LostAnarchist Violence Is Necessary! from Neo Arcadia Itself Since: Sep, 2011
Violence Is Necessary!
#33859: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:33:32 PM

[up]3. This!

This is where I, the Vampire Mistress, proudly reside: http://liberal.nationstates.net/nation=nova_nacio
Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#33860: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:33:49 PM

healthy helping of violently anti-britain ideals

You're also stuck in the 19th century, too. tongue American politics have ideas that were popular in 1800s Europe. tongue

Besides, the EU has superior institutions: the European Parliament, the Council of the European Union, and the European commission.

Damn straight.

edited 20th Oct '12 2:34:35 PM by Inhopelessguy

GreedDemon what ever I want I take from Hell Since: Oct, 2012
what ever I want I take
#33861: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:36:26 PM

I swear you humans don't make any sense to me. You get into these big old debates about a bunch old guys who don't give a damn about you. Presidential elections all come down to deciding if you want a punch in the face or a kick in the balls. No matter what you pick you still get hurt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MAEBgDZVLfU this video is pretty much politics in a nutshell

edited 20th Oct '12 2:37:53 PM by GreedDemon

I GOT MY MIND ON MY MONEY AND MY MONEY ON MY MIND
deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#33862: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:39:10 PM

@Omelet: We call them the State Legislature, the General Assembly, the General Court, or the Legislative Assembly, depending on the state. Each State's legislature is set up by the State's Constitution. The majority (41) are set up with a Senate and a House of Representatives, like the Federal Government. In five states, they're the Assembly and the Senate. In three states, they're the House of Delegates and the Senate. In Nebraska, there is only the Senate, and no other house.

edited 20th Oct '12 2:40:18 PM by deathpigeon

Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#33863: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:39:18 PM

@hopeless- I dont know! It's madness!

And we're not even sparta!

I'm baaaaaaack
Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#33864: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:41:13 PM

Ah, I see.

How does the State Senates get elected? Is it at-large? And how does one differentiate between a State Representative and a National Representative?

terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#33865: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:43:41 PM

@Grand Demon We all know this,but I know for sure most people would rather be punched in the face from which they can recover than be kicked in the balls and never have babies.

So we debate over which outcome will be a slug in the face,...most of us here are sure Romney's victory will give us a nasty curb-stomp in the balls,Obama's would just be a face punch,or simple kick in the balls

For any of you female tropers a punch in the boobs you can use as a substitute.

Trivialis Since: Oct, 2011
#33866: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:43:44 PM

State senates get elected the same way state lower houses do, by population-based districts (default is single-member districts, probably plurality).

I think state senates are a joke and most states should go unicameral.

ohsointocats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#33867: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:43:44 PM

"And how does one differentiate between a State Representative and a National Representative?"

What do you mean how does one do it? They're just different.

Skatepunk Since: Feb, 2011
#33868: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:46:23 PM

OK, I voted.

Obama it is. I wonder if I should have voted for Johnson...

Oh well. Too late now.

Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#33869: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:46:48 PM

@ Triv. Wait, they get elected by districts? Are the districts in the State Senates larger than the State Houses?

@ Cats. I dunno. We differentiate between Welsh, Scottish, NI, and British representatives by their title (AM [Assembly Member], MSP [Member of the Scottish Parliament], MLA [Member of the Leg Assembly] and MP [Member of Parliament] respectively).

Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#33870: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:47:25 PM

[up][up] And yet only 1 is...

edited 20th Oct '12 2:47:33 PM by Joesolo

I'm baaaaaaack
Trivialis Since: Oct, 2011
#33871: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:47:28 PM

Nah, vote for a third party only if you have an actual problem with the two major parties.

@Hopey: I expect the state senate districts to be larger, since there are fewer members. It's basically X / Y. I know some states just define a senate district as a collection of a lower house districts.

edited 20th Oct '12 2:50:06 PM by Trivialis

Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Indiana Solo
#33872: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:49:28 PM

3rd parties are nearly always just a way to throw away your vote though. we'd need a serious political and social movement the get a third party with any sort of power, even just enough to be a deciding factor in mos things.

Really a sane 3rd party with, say, 15% of the senate and house would be a good thing, compromises would be possible.

I'm baaaaaaack
deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#33873: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:49:29 PM

@Omelet: You differentiate them by calling them State Representatives and Representatives.

@Triv: Well, when Nebraska went unicameral, they got rid of their House of Representatives, not their Senate.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#33874: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:50:13 PM

We generally say Senator or Representative when talking about the federal kind and add state to the front when talking about one that only operates at the state level. It can get confusing though since most people don't care about the state level congressmen.

LostAnarchist Violence Is Necessary! from Neo Arcadia Itself Since: Sep, 2011
Violence Is Necessary!
#33875: Oct 20th 2012 at 2:51:43 PM

[up]...Only when they fuck things up for everyone nationwide!!

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