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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#338401: Nov 9th 2020 at 8:34:48 AM

Ben Carson has tested positive for COVID-19.

What pisses me off is the "...[he] feels fortunate to have access to effective therapeutics which aid and markedly speed his recovery." Yeah, and what about other Americans who don't?

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf Since: Jan, 2019
I actually wanted to be Resileaf
#338402: Nov 9th 2020 at 8:35:14 AM

[up][up][up]Yes, but Marq's premise was that the Democrats controlled the Senate by winning the two Georgia runoff seats.

Edited by Resileafs on Nov 9th 2020 at 11:35:33 AM

TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#338403: Nov 9th 2020 at 8:38:13 AM

Gotta give the Trump administration credit for one thing: when they promote herd immunity, they lead by example. Idiots.

RAlexa21th Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer from California (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Zettai Ryouiki Enjoyer
#338404: Nov 9th 2020 at 8:38:22 AM

Any news about Trump's lawsuits? This is my main interest right now.

Continue writing our story of peace.
TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#338405: Nov 9th 2020 at 8:40:43 AM

They're going nowhere because they're half-assed.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#338406: Nov 9th 2020 at 8:41:21 AM

There's been like 12 that have been struck down already.

It's amazing how the GOP have closed ranks against Trump. Probably because they don't want him back.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Wispy Since: Feb, 2017
#338407: Nov 9th 2020 at 8:42:26 AM

The village fool served their purpose.

Hopefully this leads to widespread infighting amongst the Republicans, Qultits, and Trumpists.

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#338408: Nov 9th 2020 at 8:42:38 AM

Any news about Trump's lawsuits? This is my main interest right now.

They're being filed, but no court has picked them up because the Trump campaign can provide no evidence to support their claim. Michigan allowed for a recount, but the Trump Campaign refused to pay for it.

It is all hot air, and the courts know it.

Hopefully this leads to widespread infighting amongst the Republicans, Qultits, and Trumpists.

Like the Tea Party caused infighting within the Republican party? Because that worked out just dandy for us, did it not?

Edited by Kayeka on Nov 9th 2020 at 5:44:43 PM

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#338409: Nov 9th 2020 at 8:45:37 AM

Hopefully this leads to widespread infighting amongst the Republicans, Qultits, and Trumpists.

Monkey no hurt monkey. Trump is, at best, either a scapegoat or an afterthought, but those three remain on and the same.

Edited by Aszur on Nov 9th 2020 at 10:45:53 AM

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#338410: Nov 9th 2020 at 8:47:48 AM

Q is dead.

The conmen who created it have gone silent and have offered their platform ("Q"'s platform) for sale.

I don't think I can overstate how big a deal that is.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#338411: Nov 9th 2020 at 8:49:57 AM

Chicago Sun-Times: Gov. Pritzker, Senators Duckworth and Durbin want Illinois State House Speaker Madigan Out as Party Leader


One thing to remember when thinking about the future of the Republican Party post-Trump, is that a full half of Republicans in the House come the next Congress will be those who were elected 2016-on. A lot of people got elected on promising Trumpism and quite a few true-believers or people of the same makeup as him got elected.

Edited by nova92 on Nov 9th 2020 at 8:50:11 AM

Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#338412: Nov 9th 2020 at 8:50:27 AM

@Trump support for paying people: Which is pretty stupid because Trump was the president at the time and Democrats could not have sent out a check to every American with government money. Trump could have easily have given every American six checks with that amount during a big lockdown in the pandemic so it wasn't even as helpful as it could have been.

Edited by Wildcard on Nov 9th 2020 at 11:51:03 AM

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#338413: Nov 9th 2020 at 8:50:29 AM

[up][up][up]That is legit great news. Do you have a source for that?

Edited by Kayeka on Nov 9th 2020 at 5:50:37 PM

nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#338414: Nov 9th 2020 at 8:55:27 AM

NPR: Biden Names 13 Health Experts To COVID-19 Transition Advisory Board

President-elect Joe Biden named 13 health experts to his Transition COVID-19 Advisory Board on Monday, advancing his plans despite uncertainty over how much the Trump administration will cooperate amid its ongoing legal challenge to the election results. The coronavirus has spread at alarming rates in the U.S. in recent weeks.

The panel will be co-chaired by three people: former Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Dr. David Kessler of the University of California, San Francisco; former Surgeon General Vivek Murthy; and Dr. Marcella Nunez-Smith, an associate professor of medicine and epidemiology at Yale.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#338415: Nov 9th 2020 at 9:03:19 AM

@ Wildcard - I know that and you know that, but if someone is a "low information voter", it is plausible that they could have the mindset that the only economic aid they were getting was coming from Trump. And that's pretty clearly why Trump made sure that his name was on the check.

And at the risk of falling into the "clever fallacy" myself, besides Republicans not really liking to benefit people, there definitely seemed to be some coordination between Trump and the Senate to present the image that Democrats weren't providing aid.

Of course, I'd assume that someone persuaded by the single check would have priors that would make them receptive to Trump. But this is about as close as the "voted for Trump because he's an economic populist" gets to reality.

Edited by Hodor2 on Nov 9th 2020 at 11:04:20 AM

J79 Since: Jan, 2015
#338416: Nov 9th 2020 at 9:08:53 AM

Ok, I've always wondered something, why is 35 the minimum age that you're allowed to be President at? It may be because most presidents were already politicians/elected officials to begin with (Trump is an oddity), which is why pretty much every President has been old, but was that age picked because it's when people are supposedly more "mature" (insert your own jokes here)? Why not 30?

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#338417: Nov 9th 2020 at 9:09:52 AM

It's an arbitrary point people decided "oh they are probably smart and experienced enough by this age". Legally.

Culturally, I doubt a 35 year old person is considered experienced enough to merit being president. For no logical reason.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
ChrispyBacon Since: Oct, 2020
#338418: Nov 9th 2020 at 9:12:40 AM

Technically, because the C Onstitution says so. As for why probably has something to do with the considerably shorter lifespan of the time. Thirty-five then would be, probably, akin to around fifty now. Maybe they were trying to set up a gerontocracy

nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#338419: Nov 9th 2020 at 9:12:49 AM

Given that 25 is the minimum age for the House and 30 for the Senate, I wonder if the thought process was: 21 was the age for getting the right to vote, so a few years of adult life experience gets you to the House, the Senate is more important than that, so tack on 5 years, and then to be President you should have some experience, so a few years more for 35 being the cutoff.

Edited by nova92 on Nov 9th 2020 at 9:13:10 AM

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#338420: Nov 9th 2020 at 9:12:54 AM

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's based on some idea that someone under 35 wouldn't be mature enough to do it. And, to be fair, it's not exactly an entry level job.

Leviticus 19:34
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#338421: Nov 9th 2020 at 9:16:31 AM

Honestly, I doubt anyone has the maturity and experience for the Oval Office before they are 40. And it takes time to build the clout needed to even win the primaries. The ambitious greenhorns get funneled into Congressional or state races to build up their resumes.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#338422: Nov 9th 2020 at 9:16:51 AM

There is a quip from Ronald Reagan that exploited just that: when his then debate opponent Walter Mondale.

I am literally going to steal the Wikipedia description for this because they sum it up well enough.

In the first televised debate, Mondale performed unexpectedly well, which led many to question Reagan's age and capacity to endure the grueling demands of the presidency (Reagan was the oldest person to serve as president—73 at the time—while Mondale was 56). In the next debate on October 21, 1984, Reagan deflected the issue by quipping, "I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and inexperience."

Edited by Aszur on Nov 9th 2020 at 11:17:12 AM

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#338423: Nov 9th 2020 at 9:18:43 AM

https://slate.com/technology/2020/11/qanon-election-trump-8kun.html

Here's the Qanon news

On 8kun, the seedy imageboard where the movement’s anonymous leader Q posts messages to his followers, Qanon followers can’t quite agree on how to process Trump’s likely defeat. As NBC’s Ben Collins reported, Q has not posted anything since Election Day, and his followers are becoming more and more agitated at the silence.

Ron Watkins, son of 8kun’s owner Jim Watkins and the administrator of the site, also resigned from his role on Election Day. With his site privileges, Ron was able to control the Q account whenever he wanted and very likely has some sort of working relationship with whoever is posting as Q, who claims to be a government official with “Q-level clearance.”

Many in the movement believe that Joe Biden is a pedophile; their reactions to his likely victory have ranged from assurances that a Trump loss is part of a greater plan to calls to take up arms in a civil war. “Remember that the movement is about ideas and the PEOPLE and not Trump himself,” one 8Kun poster wrote. Another wrote, “Q, you bastard. Don’t you dare go quiet on us right now. Don’t you fucking dare go ghost mode.”

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Nov 9th 2020 at 9:20:51 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Lazlo74 from A tropical hell-hole Since: May, 2018
#338424: Nov 9th 2020 at 9:20:13 AM

Wait, the people behind Q decided that the jig is up and left just like that?

That's swell and all, but considering how utterly fanatical their followers are, I'm pretty sure a good chunk of them will double down, simply dismiss it as "fayk nyewze from dae MSM" and keep propagating their nuttiness on social media and fringe circles.

Scaled seeker
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#338425: Nov 9th 2020 at 9:21:07 AM

[up]x2 These people are just going to join the next Right-wing Cult that presents itself, and trust me, there will be a new Right-wing Cult by 2022. From the Tea Party to the Alt-Right to Trumpism to QAnon, and the next Cult is going to be worse then the rest of them. Probably out and out Fascism.

Edited by DingoWalley1 on Nov 9th 2020 at 12:21:21 PM


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