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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#338151: Nov 8th 2020 at 6:06:37 AM

Another thought on the election. Probably comes across as a "no duh" statement but it needs to be said regardless.

You know why so many people are ecstatic that Biden won, even if he wasn't some people's first choice? Because they were terrified of Trump. Terrified of his policies, terrified of his rhetoric, terrified of the people he empowers, and terrified of the implications of pulling out of major alliances with the rest of the world, while cozying up to dictators.

...We should not be terrified of our president. The president works for us, we don't work for them. Biden gets that. Trump's all about what's in it for him, and let the power go to his head. Being terrified of your president is a dictatorship.

Edited by speedyboris on Nov 8th 2020 at 6:08:57 AM

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#338152: Nov 8th 2020 at 6:13:31 AM

Yeah, I’m not scared of Biden taking away my human rights like Trump has been trying to.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#338153: Nov 8th 2020 at 6:19:53 AM

Yeah. That's why, far as I'm concerned, there's no real point in criticizing Biden until and unless he actually does something we don't like.

Until we get to that point, how far Left he is or isn't is irrelevant. Biden at his worst would still be preferable to Trump at his best.

Edited by sgamer82 on Nov 8th 2020 at 6:20:16 AM

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#338154: Nov 8th 2020 at 6:21:43 AM

Biden has actually pledged to expand human rights by signing legislation to protect LGBT+ people.

Not that a republican majority senate would let him, but that's why the runoffs are so important.

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#338155: Nov 8th 2020 at 6:25:06 AM

[up][up] What about not doing things that are necessary (and possible)? There are several simultaneous crises going on; we have to expect more of the president than “do no harm”.

Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#338156: Nov 8th 2020 at 6:25:36 AM

I heard Dave Chappelle told Democrats to be humble last night, and I keep thinking about how the only stand-up comedian I saw make fun of the Four Seasons Total Landscaping mess on Twitter was Patton Oswalt, and I just sort of feel angry at the stand-up comedy world right now.

Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#338157: Nov 8th 2020 at 6:44:26 AM

Wait,who are you mad at,Dave or Patton ?

Edited by Ultimatum on Nov 8th 2020 at 2:45:11 PM

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#338158: Nov 8th 2020 at 6:46:11 AM

[up][up][up] I see we're already criticizing Biden for not doing enough at -73 days. That's got to be a new record.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#338159: Nov 8th 2020 at 6:46:35 AM

[up][up]Dave.

Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#338160: Nov 8th 2020 at 6:51:36 AM

I didn’t say he had done anything wrong now. Just that, once he takes office, “don’t do anything horrible” is setting the bar too low.

ChrispyBacon Since: Oct, 2020
#338161: Nov 8th 2020 at 6:53:21 AM

Harris/Abrams '24!

Yeah, I know that would never fly but I can dream.

On a different topic Abrams better get a cabinet seat out of this. She's a big part of why Biden won Georgia. I'm thinking Education could use someone smart to fix DeVos's fuckups

Edited by ChrispyBacon on Nov 8th 2020 at 6:53:47 AM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#338162: Nov 8th 2020 at 6:53:54 AM

I agree, I think Biden will tend to play it safe and try to be more bipartisan.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#338163: Nov 8th 2020 at 6:54:27 AM

Nobody was saying that was the bar. Just that it’ll be nice to have a president again who doesn’t spend every single day insulting citizens and being openly racist.

We’re allowed to be relieved.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#338164: Nov 8th 2020 at 6:55:51 AM

[up][up][up] I'd rather she be head of the DNC, because that labyrinthine mess of an organization could use a whole lot of swamp-draining and dramatic change in how it turns out the vote. Not to mention Abrams is quite progressive but also knows how to play ball with inflexible centrist elites.

Edited by AlleyOop on Nov 8th 2020 at 9:56:21 AM

ChrispyBacon Since: Oct, 2020
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#338166: Nov 8th 2020 at 6:58:54 AM

Yeah I think Abrams is way more valuable atm as a voting rights/turnout activist.

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#338167: Nov 8th 2020 at 6:59:20 AM

I think local representation is a valuable thing, so I don’t favour proportional representation for US (or Canadian) legislatures, but I do like ranked ballots. That lets people vote for the candidate they like best without worrying about splitting the vote.

Single Transferable Vote with multi-member constituencies. You get more proportional representation without sacrificing locality of representatives; although the actual goal of such a system is that the representatives returned most accurately represent the wishes of the voters than anything.

Overlord Since: Mar, 2013
#338168: Nov 8th 2020 at 7:01:24 AM

The Trump movement grew under the Obama administration, I think just going back to business as usual will not work. Biden will have to do things to change the conditions that created Trumpism.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#338169: Nov 8th 2020 at 7:02:49 AM

One of the major conditions that created Trumpism was racist backlash to there being a black president, so simply by being white Biden has taken away one major factor.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#338170: Nov 8th 2020 at 7:05:16 AM

The Biden-Harris Transition Plan website is up. Listed priorities are: COVID-19, Economic Recovery, Racial Equity, and Climate Change, with broad goals for each.

Overlord Since: Mar, 2013
#338171: Nov 8th 2020 at 7:07:04 AM

[up] That is part of it, the other part is neo liberal economic policies have caused a decline in the middle class and Trump made promises to bring jobs back from China to gain support. That was a lie, but it did help him gain popularity.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#338172: Nov 8th 2020 at 7:08:48 AM

Good to see that race is immediately on the agenda.

So I heard a political commentator say that the vice president is not really that important, and the appointment to look out for is the Chief of Staff. So is there any indication who that might be? Any candidates?

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#338173: Nov 8th 2020 at 7:12:55 AM

[up][up] What about not doing things that are necessary (and possible)? There are several simultaneous crises going on; we have to expect more of the president than “do no harm”.
Isn't that just another flavor of "until and unless he actually does something we don't like"? Or just taken from the other direction ("Until and unless he doesn't do something we do like")?

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#338174: Nov 8th 2020 at 7:13:58 AM

I know there’s been discussion around which of Biden’s past chiefs of staff is likely to get the job, but I can’t remember what the names are.

As for the VP not being powerful, the VP has as much power as the president wants to to have, so they can be very powerful, and Biden has certainly been indicating he’s going to give Harris lots of power.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#338175: Nov 8th 2020 at 7:14:43 AM

[up][up] Yeah, it was intended as the flipped version of what you said (refraining from doing things that we do like).

Edited by Galadriel on Nov 8th 2020 at 10:15:54 AM


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