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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
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Wales's Senedd does something that's a little of both, two-thirds of the seats are local constituencies elected by FPTP, and one third represent electoral regions and are elected using the D'Hondt (or Jefferson) proportional representation method. This typically means that it gives parties that are shafted by the FPTP method a seat at the table if they have enough support otherwise.
The Senedd does indeed use a form of the Additional Member system. It means UKIP got in, but that's democracy I guess.
Edited by GoldenKaos on Nov 8th 2020 at 4:27:00 AM
"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."Wales can do that because it’s geographically small. If you did that in the US or Canada, you’d either need to greatly expand the legislature (to include new PR-elected people), or reduce the number of ridings/districts and have some extremely large districts/ridings in sparsely populated areas. When they get too large, it becomes difficult for representatives to keep in touch with their constituents.
Edited by Galadriel on Nov 8th 2020 at 7:31:11 AM
Speaking of Neocons, their support still leaves a sour taste in the mouth. I mean sure, take what you can get, but when you have war mongering scumbags like Bill Kristol go out and proclaim themselves as defenders of Democracy.....that's still pretty disgusting.
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianWhat Maine and Nebraska do is not good at all. It is so easily gerrymandered by 1 party to give them all the power. It can really only exist well in a neutral setting, IE if there were laws that prevented Gerrymandering in every state.
Ranked Choice however is good, it would open up room for a multiparty system.
Unfortunately it seems like the majority of US voters consider ranked choice to be "too complicated", going by what the people who voted against it in MA said. It also takes longer to count the votes and declare winners in that system, which, as we've seen in this election, is also not very popular.
I really wanted Ranked Choice to pass, too; I certainly voted for it.
Yeah the U.K. tried to have ranked choice voting under a different name and it failed, in part because people viewed it as to complicated.
That’s why I like AMS, it’s very simple, you either vote the same as FPTP and later have some top ups, or you vote once for a local candidate and once for a political party, with top ups being based on the second votes.
With AMS you’d probably implement it at a state level, so some of the state’s congressional seats would have geographical districts and others would be used as top ups (technically being at large districts). But that would run into issues with smaller states, also you’ll never pass it in a state that leans strongly one way, as that would put the controlling party at a disadvantage.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranI love how we're already back to criticizing the U.S. electoral system and worrying that Biden won't be progressive enough. Never stop, politics threads.
Anyway, did you see Kamala Harris' lead-off speech last night? She's got eyes on the prize: a 2024 or 2028 ticket, depending on Biden's health. Any other Democrat looking to get in on that action is going to have to go through her, and she is not sitting down for anyone.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Yeah Harris is certainly going to be running in the future, I’ve already had a quick look at who I think a potential Harris ticket would put on the bottom of it (I’d expect it to be an older white man, potentially from the sunbelt of the rust belt and with solid moderate credentials).
Edited by Silasw on Nov 8th 2020 at 1:47:36 PM
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranIf Beto actually wins something then whatever office he wins would be to valuable to pull him away from.
I could see Kelly or Beshear being a choice, or to really reassure white voters someone like Bell-Edwards.
Bernie’s age and two strait losses should really denture him from running again. Warren might however run.
Edited by Silasw on Nov 8th 2020 at 1:54:58 PM
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranI don't literally mean Sanders, by the way. Even if he reaches 2028 alive and well, I seriously doubt he's going to run for President. Dude's old and has done a lot to move the country towards the Left, let him retire.
I mean more somone who will inherit Sanders' will, a candidate with very progressive social and economic ideals and policies.
Frankly, I don't see Warren as being that person.

You can have both local representation and proportional representation, that’s what the Additional Member System is for, though I’m not sure how easy creating such a system would be with the US constitution.
Edited by Silasw on Nov 8th 2020 at 12:21:46 PM
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran