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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#338101: Nov 7th 2020 at 8:14:08 PM

Biden is preparing a storm of executive orders to undo all of Trump's garbage. As has been speculated, it's being strongly suggested that he will appoint people in an acting capacity and rely on executive orders to bypass Mc Connell's obstruction.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Nov 7th 2020 at 1:17:20 PM

Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#338102: Nov 7th 2020 at 8:16:46 PM

That makes me feel better hearing that. It's gonna be a while but if things continue as they are, I think we can unfuck Trump's shit as long as we keep pushing.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
Bur from Flyover Country (Living Relic) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#338103: Nov 7th 2020 at 8:18:14 PM

I'm pretty sure my alt-right-ish nephew is having an absolute meltdown right now and I am living for it. I know my sister's freaking out. When Trump was first elected she was laughing at all the kids at the college she works at who were scared about what Trump was going to do to their civil rights and rubbing Trump in her co-workers' faces.

This does mean that holiday dinners are going to be a trial this year (that lot have all had covid because of course they have, so no avoiding it).

Edited by Bur on Nov 7th 2020 at 10:19:04 AM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#338105: Nov 7th 2020 at 8:19:55 PM

[up]You can bypass it by opening it up with an incognito/private tab on your browser, I think.

nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#338106: Nov 7th 2020 at 8:42:03 PM

He will rejoin the Paris climate accords, according to those close to his campaign and commitments he has made in recent months, and he will reverse President Trump's withdrawal from the World Health Organization. He will repeal the ban on almost all travel from some Muslim-majority countries, and he will reinstate the program allowing "dreamers," who were brought to the United States illegally as children, to remain in the country, according to people familiar with his plans.

Biden's top advisers have spent months quietly working on how best to implement his agenda, with hundreds of transition officials preparing to get to work inside various federal agencies. They have assembled a book filled with his campaign commitments to help guide their early decisions.

Biden is planning to set up a coronavirus task force on Monday, in recognition that the global pandemic will be the primary issue that he must confront. The task force, which could begin meeting within days, will be co-chaired by former surgeon general Vivek H. Murthy and David Kessler, a former Food and Drug Administration commissioner.

Without congressional cooperation, however, Biden has said that he plans to immediately reverse Trump's rollback of 100 public health and environmental rules that the Obama administration had in place.

He would also institute new ethics guidelines at the White House, and he has pledged to sign an executive order the first day in office saying that no member of his administration could influence any Justice Department investigations.

Biden has long pledged to rejoin the Paris climate accords by executive order, but he has also said that he would attempt to persuade other nations to adopt higher standards in an attempt to curb the impacts of climate change.

Edited by nova92 on Nov 7th 2020 at 8:43:03 AM

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#338107: Nov 7th 2020 at 8:43:59 PM

The turtle analogy is funny considering Mc Connell exists. Maybe the GOP should change their mascot into one.

A bit belated, but: I love turtles. They're like seriously one of my favorite types of animal. Can we please stop dragging their good name through the mud by comparing them to Mitch McConnell?

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#338108: Nov 7th 2020 at 8:49:45 PM

Thought: We know the Supreme Court has ruled Congress and the State Judiciary can outlaw Partisan Gerrymandering... Could Biden outlaw it himself through Executive Orders? We have 2 Supreme Court cases that have explicitly ruled that Partisan Gerrymandering is illegal but have no criteria to effectively end it, and ruled that they can not do anything themselves. Surely Biden can use these Cases and try to create a criteria himself to ban it?

If I were Biden, I'd try it anyways and see what would happen. It'd probably be struck down by the Supreme Court, although there's always a chance it could survive and become the Standard.

Edited by DingoWalley1 on Nov 7th 2020 at 11:52:30 AM

AnoBakaDesu Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
#338109: Nov 7th 2020 at 8:53:15 PM

[up][up] can't help it, because McConnell looks and sounds like one.

"They played us like a DAMN FIDDLE!" — Kazuhira Miller, Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Snipertoaster from Mind Your Business (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
#338110: Nov 7th 2020 at 8:53:33 PM

[up][up][up][up]Wow... it's actually kind of surreal seeing someone actually willing to work at being President after the last four years. I can imagine that Trump is going to spit a few final, spiteful FU's in office just before he's officially unpresidented (I've been waiting for years to say that...), but I guess Biden will cross that bridge when he comes to it. He's actually going to try and work around McConnell rather than just sit on his hands with one branch of government out of his party's control. Still seems trippier than it should be...

Edited by Snipertoaster on Nov 7th 2020 at 4:54:03 PM

We can choose to be better.
TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#338111: Nov 7th 2020 at 9:04:53 PM

If these last four years has shown anything, it would be that it's utterly pointless to try and work with the GOP on anything.

The entire party is just a giant hairball of slime, gel, and hair, stuck in the pipes.

So good for Biden to having planned around that plug for this moment.

TheWildWestPyro from Seattle, WA Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#338112: Nov 7th 2020 at 9:06:37 PM

Crossposting from election results thread:

Folks from other countries react to the US elections.

Of particular note:

  • They were upset by gerrymandering, voter purging, and voting registration.

  • In New Zealand, two minutes for someone to vote. In Estonia, a minute. In the UK, five minutes. India, five to seven minutes. In Germany, five to ten, and in Australia, ten. They were stunned at why US voting took so long.

TL;DR: If we are to take pride in voting as we do in the US, fix it.

Now normally I'd be grumbling at the 'smug European' crowd, but these people are genuine, speaking in person, and from all around the world. And they're all clearly sad and upset about how Americans have such difficulty voting.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#338113: Nov 7th 2020 at 10:34:20 PM

And to the surprise of nobody (except Trump and his supporters, and I'm sure even among them there were the realistic ones), Biden won.

First, a toast to Trump.

You turned out to be, well, a shitty president as everyone expected. Still, you could've been a lot worse. Honestly, by the end of 2016 I thought the World War III was real likely (and don't you even bring the whole Iran assassination, it would've never gotten that far to begin with). Enjoy this moment here, big guy. Because from now on the only places you will ever visit outside of your house will probably be courts, hearings, and possibly prison.

And to Biden.

...I do not envy you, man. In addition to Trump's mess to clean up, you also got COVID-19 and all its fallouts to take care of. Hope you and Harris pull through.

And lastly, to America in general. By 2024, here's hoping America becomes less of a crazytown.

Congrats to everyone here. Must've been a real rough few days for all of you.

Continuously reading, studying, and (hopefully) growing.
Makir Since: Feb, 2017
#338114: Nov 8th 2020 at 12:51:36 AM

How would you all feel if AOC ran for president in 2028?

By the way, some Trumpers are still coping by claiming "IT'LL BE JUST LIKE 2000 WHEN AL GORE LOST FLORIDA) except even if Biden lost one state due to a recount, the others would still make him win.

Edited by Makir on Nov 8th 2020 at 12:53:25 PM

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#338116: Nov 8th 2020 at 1:24:29 AM

[up]. Politics is a tough job, and most people aren’t up for it, so kudos to anyone who can, and still remain upright.

Edited by megaeliz on Nov 8th 2020 at 4:31:04 AM

JamieBGood meow Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
meow
#338117: Nov 8th 2020 at 1:28:14 AM

[up][up]She articulates better than I could why I'm not really all that optimistic about what a Biden presidency will mean.

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singularityshot Since: Dec, 2012
#338118: Nov 8th 2020 at 1:51:42 AM

Judging on what she has said, if she stays in politics it seems like her trajectory is to head back to New York and possibly try and pick up some executive branch positions.

So at this stage I think it's more likely that she'll try and run for mayor of New York (which would be hugely groundbreaking in and of itself)

After that, should she want to return to national politics I would imagine it would be through the Senate and possibly from there a pivot to the White House.

There is a reason why Representatives (generally) don't run for president. Two year terms mean that they really don't get a break from campaigning. And if they are not campaigning, they are fundraising for their next campaign. Senators however have the luxury of six years. They can explore presidential campaigns without the fear of losing their current positions.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#338119: Nov 8th 2020 at 2:23:49 AM

I think it does show though that if USA actually had multiple parties, there would be enough politicians for them in current two parties :P Like could definitely see progressives, conservatives, moderates and whatever the frick Trump's followers count as being separate parties.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#338120: Nov 8th 2020 at 2:29:14 AM

Well I think AOC should be proud of all she's done. I also don't blame her due to the constant neverending attacks against her.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Makir Since: Feb, 2017
#338121: Nov 8th 2020 at 3:55:39 AM

[up][up] First-Past-The-Post voting systems unfortunately perpetuate 2-party systems. There's just no way for other parties in America to gain enough power without a radical change in the voting itself. If, like many European countries, the House and Senate was not decided with FPTP but with proportional voting, you'd see a big change real quick.

Edited by Makir on Nov 8th 2020 at 3:56:11 AM

GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#338122: Nov 8th 2020 at 3:59:48 AM

Yeah, even in countries like the UK which have multiple parties, the FPTP system skews the representation heavily in favour of the biggest two parties.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#338123: Nov 8th 2020 at 4:05:36 AM

I'd be very happy if the Trumpists would secede from the GOP and form their own party after this.

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GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#338124: Nov 8th 2020 at 4:08:48 AM

It would be amazing if the election-accepting Neocons and the election-denying MAGAs actually split the GOP over this.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#338125: Nov 8th 2020 at 4:14:47 AM

I think local representation is a valuable thing, so I don’t favour proportional representation for US (or Canadian) legislatures, but I do like ranked ballots. That lets people vote for the candidate they like best without worrying about splitting the vote.

Edited by Galadriel on Nov 8th 2020 at 7:22:23 AM


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