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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#337826: Nov 7th 2020 at 9:13:52 AM

I have officially added "Visit Philly at least once" to my bucket list in their honor.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#337827: Nov 7th 2020 at 9:14:32 AM

Prime Minister Trudeau just congratulated Biden and Harris. Doubt you'll see any real holdouts among the international community.

Edited by Rationalinsanity on Nov 7th 2020 at 1:15:28 PM

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#337828: Nov 7th 2020 at 9:14:38 AM

Only thing I am scared of right now is the protests escalating. Could very much happen.

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#337829: Nov 7th 2020 at 9:17:15 AM

Speaking of Philadelphia, didn't one of their sports teams make a rare win a year or two ago?

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They call me.... Prophet
#337830: Nov 7th 2020 at 9:17:36 AM

Congratulations everyone. It's one hell of an achievement. This is the fourth time in a century that the incumbent loses.

yea it's not the end and all that, but it's a victory worth celebrating. Cause it's still historical and monumental, and we shouldn't forget that.

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#337831: Nov 7th 2020 at 9:19:19 AM

[up][up][up][up]I’m sure Trudeau is relieved that at least he gets to deal with rational people now.

I spent the last five days terrified that the US was going to cease being a democracy. I still think it would have, if Trump had won, going by what he’s done in the last four years.

Now I can relax, just a little.

Edited by Galadriel on Nov 7th 2020 at 12:21:18 PM

Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#337832: Nov 7th 2020 at 9:23:06 AM

Doubt you'll see any real holdouts among the international community.

The right-wing prime minister of Slovenia congratulated Trump on his "victory" a day or two ago, but if he reverses course it's likely no one will really care (other than Trump, maybe).

Edited by Eschaton on Nov 7th 2020 at 9:23:13 AM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#337833: Nov 7th 2020 at 9:24:05 AM

Trump broke the record for oldest president only for Biden to beat him to it immediately later.

Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#337834: Nov 7th 2020 at 9:25:05 AM

Maybe I can finally go on Facebook again.

...Nope, it's still terribly designed.

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#337835: Nov 7th 2020 at 9:26:25 AM

McConnell has insited there will be a peaceful transition of power.

It's been obvious ever since trump was losing, but Mitch and by extension most other republicans are probably just looking forward to not having to deal with trump and just be the opposition party now.

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#337836: Nov 7th 2020 at 9:29:26 AM

Yeah, the Republicans probably don't think any unrest would benefit them.

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#337837: Nov 7th 2020 at 9:32:12 AM

So I've seen that article from a few pages back about how the next authoritarian president won't be so incompetent, and I gotta be honest, I'm skeptical of the idea that this election proved that Trumpism 'worked'. For starters, there's the obvious fact that Trump lost, but putting that aside for a moment - his share of the vote increased, yes, but I'd argue that had more to do with a combination of increased turnout overall and the population having steadily become more energized and polarised over the last four years - some conservative voters who were previously iffy on Trump because of his 'liberal record' (which you could say back in 2016 without irony, because he had a history of flip-flopping on his political positions before then) probably 'came around', as it were.

Plus, we already knew that Trumpism wasn't going to go away - any GOP official who thinks Trumpism 'works' almost certainly thought so before this election; they didn't need that little vote share increase to finally clinch it for them. Conversely, if Trump had lost in a landslide, I doubt it would have changed their minds.

That being said, I'm very curious about how the Biden Administration will take efforts to insulate democratic processes against Tea-Trump 2.0 going forward. If I were them, that'd be one of my top priorities.

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#337838: Nov 7th 2020 at 9:34:24 AM

That being said, I'm very curious about how the Biden Administration will take efforts to insulate democratic processes against Tea-Trump 2.0 going forward. If I were them, that'd be one of my top priorities.

Codifying the various restrictions on what the various branches of government can and can't do into actual law, with concrete penalties for breaking said law and actual mechanisms for removing the rulebreakers from office, would be a good place to start, since the previous "honor system" has been pretty clearly shown to be not worth two farts in a wind tunnel.

Edited by Reflextion on Nov 7th 2020 at 12:34:38 PM

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#337839: Nov 7th 2020 at 9:38:41 AM

Hey Biden is president Elect now. This is great. A small step on the right direction

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#337840: Nov 7th 2020 at 9:57:25 AM

I mean, a lot of people still voted for Trump. That's not going away just because he lost.

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#337841: Nov 7th 2020 at 10:09:00 AM

[up]>I mean, a lot of people still voted for Trump. That's not going away just because he lost.

Honestly, people should just take a victory when they get one and actually celebrate.

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#337842: Nov 7th 2020 at 10:12:47 AM

[up][up] We've all explained many times the problem with this mentality. Yes, these people voted for Trump. They voted for fascism, for hatred, for racism, for intolerance, for economic chaos, for robbing people of healthcare, for kidnapping children, for putting up walls, for police killing minorities, for destroying reproductive rights, for isolationism, for denial of science and rejection of basic truth.

Even if they claim they didn't do these things, that was the effect of their votes. "By their fruits you will know them." As a human, I empathize with the upset of someone who lost a race they were passionate about. I do not sympathize with them at all. They lost their bid for hate.

Edited by Fighteer on Nov 7th 2020 at 1:21:24 PM

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Jasaiga Since: Jan, 2015
#337843: Nov 7th 2020 at 10:12:47 AM

The first woman in the Oval is a black woman.

Y’all. The universe just loves irony.

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#337844: Nov 7th 2020 at 10:14:03 AM

Black and Indian, to boot. Kamala Harris is quite the ace card for representation. There's also a non-trivial chance she becomes President in the next eight years, and I'm not just talking about Biden dying. He's old and could easily retire voluntarily.

Edited by Fighteer on Nov 7th 2020 at 1:15:56 PM

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#337845: Nov 7th 2020 at 10:14:47 AM

I think the point is "if this many people voted for trump we have a massive issue", but like, it's fine to celebrate for just a little bit. The US has been putting up with this for four years. The people need catharsis.

ErichoTOME Since: Apr, 2015
#337846: Nov 7th 2020 at 10:14:57 AM

Aww, there's a "Ray of Hope" Ending after all for 2020. Just had to say that.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#337848: Nov 7th 2020 at 10:21:51 AM

I see Johnson and Macron have congratulated Biden.

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Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#337849: Nov 7th 2020 at 10:24:40 AM

I wonder what Russia's reaction is.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#337850: Nov 7th 2020 at 10:26:01 AM

Agreed, we should certainly celebrate.

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