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Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#33751: Oct 19th 2012 at 9:00:51 PM

Oh. No, that is illegal. I think I misread the premise of the event wrong.

Although, Gordon Brown did use the Ministry for Defence's money to fund the Dept for Education. Somehow.

edited 19th Oct '12 9:01:48 PM by Inhopelessguy

Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#33753: Oct 19th 2012 at 9:16:30 PM

News flash: Money is fungible.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#33754: Oct 19th 2012 at 9:19:30 PM

Allocating specific sources of incoming money to specific programs and departments is just accounting voodoo. A government takes money in and spends money. Between the two points it is just a game of balancing the books. Failing to understand this is one reason for the myth of the pending "insolvency" of Social Security.

edited 19th Oct '12 9:20:02 PM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Enkufka Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ from Bay of White fish Since: Dec, 2009
Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ
#33755: Oct 19th 2012 at 9:43:54 PM

Tammy Duckworth and Joe Walsh faced off earlier, resulting in Walsh claiming that abortion is never necessary to save a woman's life.

Also admits that Romney/Ryan would end Medicare as we know it.

Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry
Skatepunk Since: Feb, 2011
#33756: Oct 19th 2012 at 10:07:01 PM

Somewhat good news on the Grand Bargain.

I hope he follows through with ending the ridiculous cuts.

... That settles it. Obama it is. Tomorrow. Early Voting begins for me. Time to end this wishy-washyness.

[up]

Thank you Joe Walsh. evil grin

edited 19th Oct '12 10:07:47 PM by Skatepunk

terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#33757: Oct 19th 2012 at 10:10:34 PM

[up]Must be nice to know you can vote for sure,...I sent off an application for a mail-in Ballot,haven't seen any confirmation regarding it.

edited 19th Oct '12 10:10:43 PM by terlwyth

Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#33758: Oct 19th 2012 at 10:16:08 PM

I just wish I was in a state that was mildly contested. Oregon's been bluer than the sky since before I was born.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#33759: Oct 19th 2012 at 10:17:54 PM

80-year old woman gets arrested after tearing down a sign with Obama with a Hitler mustache.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Enkufka Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ from Bay of White fish Since: Dec, 2009
Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ
#33760: Oct 19th 2012 at 10:33:51 PM

Oh, and Walsh also encouraged businesses to intimidate workers into voting Republican.

Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry
terlwyth Since: Oct, 2010
#33761: Oct 19th 2012 at 10:34:21 PM

[up]Godwin's Law rears its ugly head yet again. It's just so disgusting.

edited 19th Oct '12 10:35:00 PM by terlwyth

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#33762: Oct 19th 2012 at 10:41:18 PM

We can thank grad A douchebag Lydon Larouche for this.

He's like a combination of Larry Mc Donald and Joe Lieberman.

edited 19th Oct '12 10:41:31 PM by DeviantBraeburn

Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Trivialis Since: Oct, 2011
#33763: Oct 19th 2012 at 10:52:21 PM

I've occasionally seen La Rouche Movement advocates come to our campus. I've found their content kind of conspiracy-ish.

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#33764: Oct 19th 2012 at 10:57:47 PM

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From Lydon's Wikipedia page:

"The Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank, wrote that La Rouche leads "what may well be one of the strangest political groups in American history."[169] According to the Foundation, La Rouche believes that a super elite (the "oligarchy") is in control of world events, a group that includes the Rockefellers, the London financial center, the British royal family, the Anti-Defamation League, the KGB, and the Heritage Foundation itself. Others include Nazis, Jesuits, Freemasons, Communists, Trilateralists,international bankers, the American Civil Liberties Union, and the Socialist International—all supposedly controlled by the British—as well as Hitler, H.G. Wells, Voltaire, and the Beatles as representatives of the 1960s counterculture. George Johnson in Architects of Fear (1983) compares the view to the Illuminati conspiracy theory; after he wrote about La Rouche in The New York Times, La Rouche's followers denounced Johnson as part of a conspiracy of elitists that began in ancient Egypt"

edited 19th Oct '12 11:11:39 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Enkufka Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ from Bay of White fish Since: Dec, 2009
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#33765: Oct 19th 2012 at 11:11:09 PM

I don't see what La Rouche has to do with anything.

Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#33766: Oct 19th 2012 at 11:13:02 PM

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Wanna take a guess where the Hitler-Obama posters are coming from?.

edited 19th Oct '12 11:13:15 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Trivialis Since: Oct, 2011
#33767: Oct 19th 2012 at 11:15:19 PM

[up]Yep, I've seen that.

I'm starting to think that PPACA should have been passed in components, with the core "mandate/guaranteed coverage" deal being a bill of its own, instead of one big bill. Having it a giant bill draws all criticisms and controversies to the same law, making actual analysis difficult.

Enkufka Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ from Bay of White fish Since: Dec, 2009
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#33768: Oct 19th 2012 at 11:18:08 PM

Ah.

I disagree that the bill should've been broken up. Implementation of NAFTA was based on breaking it up into muiltple bills, and what happened was, the worst part of it was passed, and once that passed, the drive to pass the parts which would've made it better would not have passed.

So we might've seen the individual mandate pass... but then the part keeping insurance companies denying coverage for preexisting conditions might not've passed.

Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry
Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#33769: Oct 19th 2012 at 11:27:23 PM

That sign doesn't even make any sense.

Trivialis Since: Oct, 2011
#33770: Oct 19th 2012 at 11:28:39 PM

Ah, no, those two should definitely be grouped. The core structure of PPACA is that "every qualified customer must pay" and "every business must give back", so it doesn't make sense to delink them. I'm talking about other provisions like Medicare reform and things that people might not agree with. Like, I'm not sure what that Obama-Hitler-Healthcare poster is objecting to, because it's just talking about the giant bill.

edited 19th Oct '12 11:29:07 PM by Trivialis

GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#33771: Oct 19th 2012 at 11:30:11 PM

I think they decried Kerry for being a fascist too. It's not about any particular piece of legislation.

Again, it's about fitting events into one's preferred worldview narrative.

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
Gunpla is amazing!
#33772: Oct 19th 2012 at 11:33:06 PM

Who doesn't call the other side facist?

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#33773: Oct 19th 2012 at 11:36:51 PM

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Here's some context: During the discussion of U.S. health care reform in 2009, La Rouche advocated a single-payer health care bill, and took exception to what he described as Barack Obama's proposal that "independent boards of doctors and health care experts [should] make the life-and-death decisions of what care to provide, and what not, based on cost-effectiveness criteria." La Rouche said the proposed boards, later compared to "death panels" by Sarah Palin, would amount to the same thing as the Nazis' Action T4 euthanasia program, and urged Americans to "quickly and suddenly change the behavior of this president ... for no lesser reason than that your sister might not end up in somebody's gas oven." Images at tables of volunteers compared Obama to Hitler, and at least one had a picture of Obama with a Hitler-style mustache.

edited 19th Oct '12 11:38:44 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Enkufka Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ from Bay of White fish Since: Dec, 2009
Wandering Student ಠ_ಠ
#33774: Oct 19th 2012 at 11:41:06 PM

Really? Did he bother to read the damn thing?

Actually, other than the Obama-hitler signs, what relevance does he even have? I've at least heard of Ron Paul. La Rouche isn't even relevant other than the sign.

Very big Daydream Believer. "That's not knowledge, that's a crapshoot!" -Al Murray "Welcome to QI" -Stephen Fry
DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#33775: Oct 19th 2012 at 11:49:52 PM

[up]

We have nothing else to talk about. Wait, here's something:

Sen. Ron Johnson told Obama administration ‘purposefully misled’ the public for weeks on Libya attack [VIDEO]

I also find this funnier than I probably should.

edited 20th Oct '12 12:04:04 AM by DeviantBraeburn

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