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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#337601: Nov 6th 2020 at 9:05:21 AM

Their denials are as transparent as Rabbit's and Bear's in I Want My Hat Back.

Disgusted, but not surprised
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#337602: Nov 6th 2020 at 9:14:45 AM

This is tangential to US Politics, but I hope we put more pressure on Netanyahu and the rest of his annexers in the upcoming years.

It's been fun.
Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#337603: Nov 6th 2020 at 9:23:30 AM

I think I asked this earlier, but does Biden have a Day One agenda, like stuff to do ASAP? I know the Senate will potentially be decided by Georgia run offs, but I can imagine stuff like rejoining the Paris Climate Agreement or establishing a federal coronavirus response can be worked on with E Os.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#337604: Nov 6th 2020 at 9:27:43 AM

Absolute silence from Ottawa today, Trudeau will not speak or do the customary congratulatory phone call until the race has been called by the major outlets.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#337605: Nov 6th 2020 at 9:29:47 AM

I think I asked this earlier, but does Biden have a Day One agenda, like stuff to do ASAP?

I hate to have to be an advertisement post, but this is better answered by Joe Bidens concrete campaign promises, which you can read of here

Edited by Aszur on Nov 6th 2020 at 11:30:02 AM

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#337606: Nov 6th 2020 at 10:03:14 AM

As a big sign that Republicans are moving. From 538

Rush Limbaugh concedes election, says Biden has won
even Rush Limbaugh admits it.

ScubaWolf from South Carolina Since: Feb, 2020
#337607: Nov 6th 2020 at 10:04:16 AM

[up] I wonder how fast he'll lose his audience.

"In a move surprising absolutely no one"
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#337608: Nov 6th 2020 at 10:11:50 AM

Doubt he cares, he's dying.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#337609: Nov 6th 2020 at 10:51:13 AM

So I’m looking at the numbers for Collins in Maine, and I’m still unsure if it’s all wrapped up.

13% of the vote is yet to be counted, and Collins is only half a percentage point away from dropping under 50%, at which point they start reallocating the votes from other candidates.

If the remaining votes go for Gideon 70-30 (as has happened in a number of places for Biden) then Maine would be very much possible, depending on how many of Savage’s voters put Gideon as their second choice.

Maybe I’m just being stupidly optimistic, but it feels wrong that, with 13% of the vote still out and the possibility of second preferences coming into play, everyone is so sure that it’s all over.

Edit: Thought I was in the other thread, will leave this here just incase anyone finds it interesting.

Edited by Silasw on Nov 6th 2020 at 6:52:23 PM

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#337610: Nov 6th 2020 at 10:53:01 AM

Didn't Gideon already concede? Or does that not really mean anything official?

The hardest thing in this world is to live in it.
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#337611: Nov 6th 2020 at 10:55:47 AM

To my understanding, concessions are actually not legally binding, you can concede and still win hypothetically. Mind you, you'd look like a big goof, but still.

Leviticus 19:34
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#337612: Nov 6th 2020 at 10:56:36 AM

Concessions are as legally binding as declarations of victory.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf Since: Jan, 2019
I actually wanted to be Resileaf
#337613: Nov 6th 2020 at 10:59:48 AM

The point of conceding is to be sporting about it, to show dignity in defeat. There is nothing binding about it though, because the government doesn't care what you said, it's still going to count every vote.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#337614: Nov 6th 2020 at 11:17:27 AM

Concessions are a norm established in the past century, there is absolutely no legal need to concede, but one candidate started doing it, and Americans were so impressed that every subsequent candidate started doing it as well, seeing it as good sportsmanship and an affirmation of democratic values.

Trump not conceding isn't a terribly good look for him, but he isn't breaking the law, and he won't face any consequences beyond general opprobrium from the media. And it's not like they don't let him have it as it is anyway.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#337615: Nov 6th 2020 at 11:25:32 AM

Considering how close it is, and the % of the vote left, what if we also somehow won North Carolina?

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#337616: Nov 6th 2020 at 11:26:23 AM

Unless it turns the Senate race around (not happening), it doesn't matter.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#337617: Nov 6th 2020 at 11:28:34 AM

NC does have a lot of mail in ballots left to count, but one of the most prominent newspapers there has checked and based on where they are coming from they don't think it will flip either the president or senate race.

NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#337618: Nov 6th 2020 at 11:29:42 AM

True - that smug twisted little shit Cawthorn seems like he's won.

Wonder if he's a Covidiot. Could COVID hit him particularly hard due to his paralysis?

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#337619: Nov 6th 2020 at 11:42:34 AM

Does a state going Republican or Democrat in the election have any other consequences beyond electors?

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
PointMaid Since: Jun, 2014
#337620: Nov 6th 2020 at 11:44:24 AM

You mean, by votes for President?

No, all the vote for President does is choose electors.

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#337621: Nov 6th 2020 at 11:59:32 AM

TLDR News does a debunking of Democratic voter fraud conspiracy theories. It comes with graphs and stuff. Though I'm sure no one around here needs any convincing, it might come in handy if you need to argue with your uncle on Facebook.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#337622: Nov 6th 2020 at 12:11:42 PM

Like fucking clockwork: Graham during a subcommittee meeting says if Republicans win the Senate and he becomes Financial Committee chairman, he'll create a dialogue to help fix the debt.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#337623: Nov 6th 2020 at 12:45:28 PM

By blaming it on the Democrats, and holding the budget hostage to "debt reduction". It's the standard RP playbook.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#337624: Nov 6th 2020 at 12:55:08 PM

I've heard a suggestion by a political commentator that Nickey Haley could be a successor to Trump within the Republican Party. Any thoughts? Is this plausible?

He also said that Trumpism won't disappear, because its prophet (his words), Steven Bannon, will still be around.

Edited by Redmess on Nov 6th 2020 at 9:57:16 PM

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#337625: Nov 6th 2020 at 12:58:12 PM

Bannon at least is probably going to prison for fraud and/or uttering threats.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.

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