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#337501: Nov 5th 2020 at 3:08:30 PM

I just want to go on record as predicting that Trump will run again in 2024—as an independent. And it will be glorious.

Because, you see, the RP will have found a smarter populist by then who is less likely to go off script. And Democrat-leaning political donor will set him up as a spoiler.

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#337502: Nov 5th 2020 at 3:11:32 PM

Uh Trump's in poor health.

He may not be well enough to run in four Years time.

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#337503: Nov 5th 2020 at 3:12:04 PM

[up][up] As somebody pointed out, would that actually work? I thought a major part of Trump's popularity is his lack of any kind of filter?

[up] His children might run.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Nov 5th 2020 at 12:12:25 PM

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#337504: Nov 5th 2020 at 3:22:15 PM

People also underestimate the fact that Trump has name recognition almost no one in the country has.

Trump was one of the most famous men in America as the "Generic Rich Guy" prior to 2016.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Nov 5th 2020 at 3:22:57 AM

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#337505: Nov 5th 2020 at 3:25:04 PM

Yeah a big part of Trump’s appeal is that he’s stupid, petty and can’t stay on script.

Talking about a smart version of Trump is like talking about a fascist who doesn't openly talk about authoritarianism, sure they might have the same outcome desired, but you’ve removed a big part of what motivates their supporters.

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#337506: Nov 5th 2020 at 3:38:10 PM

I can imagine there are small moves in the “smarter” direction that the GOP could want, like not wanting to convince their base to act against the party’s interest with things like the mail-in ballots. But that would be quite a balancing act to not overshoot and miss the mark of talking to the base on their level.

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MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#337507: Nov 5th 2020 at 3:49:14 PM

[up][up][up] Which is why it interests me to see how obscure he used to be here, overseas. When a comic anthology I read as a kid featured Bloom County strips about Trump, the editors had to include an explanatory aside about who the heck the guy was-

nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#337508: Nov 5th 2020 at 3:50:55 PM

[up]I blame the Apprentice TV Show. It turned him into a household name.

Edited by nightwyrm_zero on Nov 5th 2020 at 3:51:31 AM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#337509: Nov 5th 2020 at 3:52:27 PM

The problem of 2016 is the leadership of the GOP are all basically those old gross guys from 300. They all have the charisma of wet noodles.

The GOP

They need to hire another actor to be their candidate.

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#337510: Nov 5th 2020 at 3:55:01 PM

A smart fascist can still be aggressive and taboo-breaking. They just need discipline and strategy behind their gleeful trashing of democracy. The Republican Party has plenty of at least minimally competent fascists, as evidenced by their respectable performance in state and federal legislatures in this election. Don't buy into the myth of the irreplaceable phenomenon, especially when the person in question is a melty-brained incompetent who was the most significant weak link in a fairly solid and effective Republican campaign.

What's precedent ever done for us?
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#337511: Nov 5th 2020 at 3:57:50 PM

I think that smart candidates are a bad idea.

The Tea Party made massive gains because it marketed idiots and this is the Age of Qanon.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Nov 5th 2020 at 3:58:00 AM

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#337512: Nov 5th 2020 at 3:59:06 PM

How well-known Trump is outside the U.S. varies from country to country, I will note. (Webcomic link.)

If something is a meme, it isn't restricted to one country. And say what else you will about Trump, he always has been (and continues to be) very meme-able.

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#337513: Nov 5th 2020 at 3:59:24 PM

Bannon made a death threat towards Fauci and Wray, and got his twitter banned: https://twitter.com/peltzmadeline/status/1324471538310127618

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#337514: Nov 5th 2020 at 3:59:35 PM

We should resurrect the Bull Moose Party.

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#337515: Nov 5th 2020 at 4:02:58 PM

I was just wondering how despite Trump being a massive Jerkass throughout his presidency, why wasn't there any assassination attempt on him? I think it's because the type of people who wanted to kill a president they hated voted for him in the first place.

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#337516: Nov 5th 2020 at 4:03:53 PM

[up] There was one before he was elected, by some British guy.

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#337517: Nov 5th 2020 at 4:05:14 PM

[up][up]You pretty much got it. The two possibilities that lead to most assassinations are either being a strong force for progress (decidedly not the case) or taking away even the basic necessities (we haven’t gotten that far even though it sure feels like it).

Edited by ShinyCottonCandy on Nov 5th 2020 at 7:05:31 AM

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#337518: Nov 5th 2020 at 4:08:14 PM

I'd also argue that the Secret Service is both good at their job and extremely professional. You know, the exact opposite of Trump.

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#337519: Nov 5th 2020 at 4:08:56 PM

So if presidents are more likely to get killed because they advocate for progress and change (Lincoln and JFK), I'm worried for President Biden's safety coming next year. It just shows that most humans are bastards.

Edited by clemont107 on Nov 5th 2020 at 7:10:40 AM

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#337520: Nov 5th 2020 at 4:09:48 PM

Bloom County was mentioned near the top of the page, so speaking of it, this is straight from Berkeley Breathed's Facebook.

(context: at one point in the comic, the cat pictured here had his brain swapped with Donald Trump's)

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Nov 5th 2020 at 5:10:44 AM

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#337521: Nov 5th 2020 at 4:11:19 PM

I've always wondered about this.

Why is it that, generally speaking, large population centers tend to be left-leaning while rural areas are right-leaning?

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#337522: Nov 5th 2020 at 4:13:08 PM

[up]I know it’s not the only factor, but being exposed to people of different backgrounds more frequently helps.

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#337523: Nov 5th 2020 at 4:16:19 PM

Access to higher education is a big,big factor

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ScubaWolf from South Carolina Since: Feb, 2020
#337524: Nov 5th 2020 at 4:17:41 PM

[up][up][up] Being exposed to lots of different kinds of people. I lived on a military base as a child for a few years. I met so many different cultures and people that looked and had different ideas that being different has been seen as normal for me through the majority of my life.

Edited by ScubaWolf on Nov 5th 2020 at 7:18:28 AM

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#337525: Nov 5th 2020 at 4:24:07 PM

Using crude, simplistic, and incendiary rhetoric doesn't make you stupid, and isn't limited as a career to stupid people. It's well known in the UK, for instance, that the most talented journalists in the country work for the Mail and Sun. That clear, simple, and appealing writing style isn't easy to produce on the regular, and they need a solid understanding of both how to perform investigative journalism against political enemies and how to make shit up in ways that won't cost their paper a meaningful amount in libel fees. The Tea Party employed some very stupid people, but that doesn't mean that it was chiefly run and directed by stupid people.

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