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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#337351: Nov 4th 2020 at 7:27:31 AM

I hope red hats are still acceptable. Mine has a New York Yankees logo.

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#337352: Nov 4th 2020 at 7:32:11 AM

[up] Every single Red Sox hat is going to be green now, I can just see it.

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#337353: Nov 4th 2020 at 7:33:06 AM

A new colour is born

Ragreen

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CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
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#337354: Nov 4th 2020 at 7:34:22 AM

[up][up]Hey, we got the Green Monster, so green is still apropos for us.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#337355: Nov 4th 2020 at 7:37:08 AM

How did red become the colour of Trumpism anyway? It seems kinda ironic, considering red is usually the colour of socialism.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#337356: Nov 4th 2020 at 7:37:51 AM

Because Trump is a member of the Republican Party and in the US their colour is red.

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PointMaid Since: Jun, 2014
#337357: Nov 4th 2020 at 7:40:23 AM

My favorite Sox hat is already a classic dark blue one with a white insert and a red B. I had it before four years ago, too. tongue

megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#337358: Nov 4th 2020 at 7:40:49 AM

Luck. Red became the color of Republicans around 2000, same time blue became the color of Democrats. Both parties officially use red, white, and blue as their party colors.

The red/blue designation was borne purely out of the 2000 election. News networks were all doing the state-by-state coloring thing, and before then each network had their own color scheme. I think it just so happened that that year red was for Bush and blue was for Gore, and it just stuck ever since.

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#337359: Nov 4th 2020 at 7:42:03 AM

[up][up][up][up] The US is not alone in that the conservative party's color is red and the liberal party's color is blue. Case in point: Japan's LDP's color is red and the CDP is blue, and in S.Korea, the conservative People Power Party is red and the liberal Democratic party is blue, though I don't think this is due to some particular reason.

Edited by minseok42 on Nov 5th 2020 at 12:42:28 AM

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#337360: Nov 4th 2020 at 7:44:12 AM

Our Socialist Party (SP) is still tomato red (the tomato being their logo as well).

Well, I hope people remember that we don't live in America over here.

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doctor05 Since: Sep, 2015
#337361: Nov 4th 2020 at 7:44:50 AM

[up][up][up] Korea has the same colour for conservative and Liberal party. People's Power Party uses Red while the Democratic party uses Blue ( bit darker than American Democratic Party) [nja]

Edited by doctor05 on Nov 4th 2020 at 7:45:19 AM

nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#337362: Nov 4th 2020 at 7:45:30 AM

We have it flipped up here in Canada. Our Liberal party uses red and Conservatives uses blue.

doctor05 Since: Sep, 2015
#337363: Nov 4th 2020 at 7:46:17 AM

[up] I think that is because Cannada got it from Britain. It is same with NZ ( Labour Red, National Blue)

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#337364: Nov 4th 2020 at 7:54:48 AM

I just wanted a hat that wasn't black or dark blue this time. And they only had the one red NY Yankees one.

Besides, I like red. grin

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PointMaid Since: Jun, 2014
#337365: Nov 4th 2020 at 7:58:46 AM

1. They even make red Yankees hats? Their normal colors are white/grey and blue. Of course, they make all sorts of odd color Red Sox hats, so I shouldn't be surprised. [lol]

2. Us Red Sox fans here would take issue more with your choice of team than color, I'm sure. cool

And back to politics, the vote count discussion thread is... keeping me relatively sane grin

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#337366: Nov 4th 2020 at 8:01:25 AM

I like red too, and wore red hats back in the day. Current events have compromised that though, but I hope the stigma dies out, assuming the association dies with it.

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#337367: Nov 4th 2020 at 8:01:49 AM

Looking it up on Wikipedia, it's super-confusing and to the extent I understand it, it seems like it was the Carter/Ford election which cemented Red for Republicans and Blue for Democrats. Although confusingly, on this USA today article on the same issue, the map for the Carter/Ford election seems to show the opposite of what the article says.

One thing I'm wondering is to what extent this has to do with the sort of "flip" between Democrats and Republicans. Because Wikipedia notes that Blue was (inconsistently) used for Republicans (and their predecessor parties) when the North was solidly Republican.

So, if Blue = North and Red = South, it kind of makes sense that Democrats would end up as the Blue party because they win Northern states. And vice versa for Republicans.

Edit - Rereading, I "think" what it's saying is that the Carter/Ford election standardized the idea of a color for each party, but it was still Red for Democrats and Blue for Republicans. Ditto in the next election with Carter/Reagan.

Edited by Hodor2 on Nov 4th 2020 at 10:18:23 AM

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#337368: Nov 4th 2020 at 8:45:12 AM

The geology of the Black Belt but I am not sure if it's serious.

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#337369: Nov 4th 2020 at 8:49:13 AM

I think it is, it just uses a (entertaining) thread when one tweet would probably have sufficed.

Tl; dr, there's a solidly Democratic "strip" in the South because that geographic region has a particularly high African American population. The "strip" doesn't show up in political charts until the early 1970's, because African Americans generally had no voting rights in the South until then.

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#337370: Nov 4th 2020 at 9:19:58 AM

Otherwise, this article makes the case that the main flaw in American election systems is the lack of an authority that can resolve disputes over an election.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#337371: Nov 4th 2020 at 9:23:27 AM

Every flaw in the US elections basically stems back to slavery and racism.

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#337372: Nov 4th 2020 at 9:52:36 AM

How did red become the colour of Trumpism anyway? It seems kinda ironic, considering red is usually the colour of socialism.

Didn't stop the Nazis from using it either.

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#337373: Nov 4th 2020 at 9:57:23 AM

I think that just a red hat isn’t too much of a problem. A red beanie won’t ruffle any feathers. But from a distance, a red baseball cap is absolutely a warning sign, especially if you can’t make out what writing is on it.

Sorta like how a single armband sets off warning sirens.

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#337374: Nov 4th 2020 at 9:59:16 AM

And why we keep having to tell people putting ironic messages on them in the MAGA font to cut it out.

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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#337375: Nov 4th 2020 at 10:01:41 AM

For what it's worth, Red being Republican is actually a pretty recent development if I understand correctly. If I had to guess as to why, it's because red implies "hot bloodedness" that one might associate with Republicans.

In the case of Nazism, they wanted to appropriate leftist imagery and combine it with rightist imagery in order to appear be some kind of third-way party. The Red was a deliberate appropriation of a socialist symbol.

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