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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
As a Jewish man (although my opinion is by no means representative of Jews as a whole) I see Trump more as an anti-antisemite. Someone who thinks "look how great the jews are managing money and creating this state etc.". And how that attitude can easily slip into antisemitism when most American Jews hate his guts, and he doesn't like that lack of reciprocal adoration. I see it as he idealizes us and then lashes out when we don't behave to expectations. Sort of like how some misogyny is expressed as coddling women and treating them as delicate creatures.
Edited by jjjj2 on Nov 3rd 2020 at 3:38:38 PM
You can only write so much in your forum signature. It's not fair that I want to write a piece of writing yet it will cut me off in the mid@ Rational Insanity - That's basically the take of journalist Yair Rosenberg in this article
- that Trump believes that antisemitic tropes are true, but sees them as good since he thinks it is a positive to corrupt and self-interested.
Also, Trump comes across as believing in a more "systemized" / Nazi-adjacent version of white supremacy than your garden variety racist. Like he frequently talks about a "racehorse theory" of genetics (i.e. that people with "good genes" are superior) and associates that genetic superiority with people of "Aryan descent" (i.e. Scandinavians in Minnesota and notorious antisemite Henry Ford).
Basically, he's not Archie Bunker. He's Tom Buchanan.
Edited by Hodor2 on Nov 3rd 2020 at 2:40:51 PM
There is a distinct difference between Israel, the nation, and the jews, the people. Criticizing Israel does not equate with criticizing the jews, or judaism, and criticizing judaism or the jews is not criticizing Israel.
Anti semites are not necesarily anti-Israel, but they are anti-jews. There are many reasons why they would support Israel as mentioned before: Israel may become a home for the jews to get away from, the biblical prophecies may come true and the end times will come...
Or having all the jews in one place is just convenient.
Regardless, Trump's remarks aredeifnitely anti semitic: He did a lot of reinforced the greedy jew stereotype and once again did his best to shovel them all to Israel.
It is, after all, convenient to make it so that the opinions of the jewish people, are exactly the same as those as israel, though this is not the case.
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes@ryanasaurus0077 Y'know, I did once compare Trump to Bob Paige, then noted that the big plus side of this is that it means Biden gets to be JC Denton.
Leviticus 19:34Several polling locations and other offices have been vandalized by red text reading "Don't Vote, Fight For Revolution", sometimes including a Hammer & Sickle. And one of those polling locations was a World War 1 memorial, for extra awful.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/03/politics/wwi-memorial-vandalize-election-2020-trnd/index.html
Its hard to tell if this a false flag, or actual communist/far-left elements doing the vandalism.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.A story that's kinda sad and funny at the same time: Many Democrats are avoiding places, foods, and other things they associate with the 2016 election.
One guy hasn't worn the star spangled shoes he wore on that night since. Another dude hasn't touched onion dip in four years.
To me, the hammer and sickle usually indicates the more authoritarian strains of leftism (such as Marxism-Leninism, Maoism, and other such Second World -isms). In which case, it could indeed be a false flag, but I have seen and even met enough people who really are legitimately that stupid. Accelerationist and opposition to democracy is pretty baked into such ideologies, so it completely fits their modus operandi. That said they'd be seen as fringe even among leftists as the anarchist side of the axis is increasingly popular these days.
Edited by AlleyOop on Nov 3rd 2020 at 4:21:18 AM
It reeks of false flag to me solely based on the fact us commies tend to not agree too much with each other, not even to organize vandalism for.
And that shade of red. Really, tovarisch? not even the right one.
Plus, it is counter productive to not support the party that doesn't want socialists dead.
Edited by Aszur on Nov 3rd 2020 at 3:25:24 AM
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothesI have seen people graffiti guillotines in real life and someone else saying "don't vote, follow the French Model" online seriously. So, it's not necessarily all that implausible.
For that matter, I'd argue the Trump Administration is very liable to breed far-left extremists. Radical values frequently emerge in response to their opposite.
Leviticus 19:34Since we're all seem more or less resigned to the idea that Trump/Republicans are going to contest everything that doesn't look like it's going they're way, it leaves me wondering if they actually have the funds for that?
Like, in the event that there's little to no ambiguity but they're still trying to contest like 20 different things, do we know if they just fizzle out immediately, or if they can drag it out for awhile?

I could believe that anti-semites like Israel because they believe more Jews in Israel mean less Jews at home to 'meddle' and 'infiltrate' and all those other conspiracies. IIRC, some extremist elements of the Zionist movement back in the 30s actually supported the Nazis because, as far as they knew, they wanted to deport Jews from Germany, meaning they'd settle in Israel instead, so this would basically be the inverse of that.
Edited by PresidentStalkeyes on Nov 3rd 2020 at 8:26:20 PM
Those sell-by-dates won't stop me because I can't read!