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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
This election is lost period, if considering everywhere I go, people talk about how great Romney is because he won one measely debate - it's amking me sick and only encouraging me to go underground until the time comes to fight back - the polls I've recovered as of late, are notr helping ease my pain and depression toward this...
I'm going to end up jobless and penniless like so many of my own people, just because I'm black if these corporatists get their hands on my taxes, my resources, my rights (which I fought hard to preserve, and what little I have in the first place) - I'm about to lose it all, because no one can see what a liar Romney is anymore...
edited 19th Oct '12 1:28:41 PM by LostAnarchist
This is where I, the Vampire Mistress, proudly reside: http://liberal.nationstates.net/nation=nova_nacioYes, you do the greatest good by voting and encouraging your friends and relatives to vote. A voice unheard is a voice wasted.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
I really hope you're right - because all these comments on these sites following these Polls in Romney's favor are making me sick to my stomach... These are people willing to throw their civil rights, minority rights, women's rights, workers' rights, everything away - to put more money in the pockets of corporatists out to do this to us just because we hate their porducts or simply expect better from them than to be treated like slaves...
edited 19th Oct '12 1:31:05 PM by LostAnarchist
This is where I, the Vampire Mistress, proudly reside: http://liberal.nationstates.net/nation=nova_nacioDon't pay attention to comments. They are highly non-representative. In a way, they're a kind of self-selection process where only the most GIFT-ed people contribute.
edited 19th Oct '12 1:32:18 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Bit of advice: Comments on the internet are not facts. People of all stripes spew bile on the news sites because they can without reprisal. It is, in fact, the safest place to do so. But people spewing bile on the internet aren't indicative of who's going to win the election. Polls are, as are the debates and other news. So yeah, don't read the comments so you can avoid the negativity.
Obama's recovered a bit with this last debate. And apparently there's going to be another one? So yeah, don't freak out just yet.
Also, why bother finding positives about a guy you think will genuinely tank the country? There are no positives to a Romney win, unless you're saying "well he's not all the other crazies that were running."
The most positive thing about Romney is that he might sufficiently discredit the GOP while in office that we'd get a Democratic resurgence at the polls in 2016.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"It's not so much "look for positive" as it's to prepare for the worse. In the case Romney is elected, he is genuinely the president of the United States and he has powers and duties of a head of government. We can't just ignore that and undermine the authority of the president.
Back when Obama became president-elect, I think I remember a few saying "I will not acknowledge his presidency; for me there is no president for the next four years". But I think that's wrong. You can disagree with the man and not respect his being elected, but you need to recognize him as the president. And undoubtedly he will do some positive things if he is elected, even if they're really obvious things.
I think Romney will have no choice but to take some actions to improve employment, or he'll end up looking like a hypocrite. He might just coast on Obama's work to restore the economy, although his Tea Party faction will be screaming for him to make good on his "cut taxes" pledge. More to the point, Republicans in Congress, who up until now have been utterly intransigent, will be falling over themselves to get their agendas into law, and it'll be the Democrats' turn to play opposition.
Quite frankly, I see no point in giving Romney and his party the benefit of the doubt. I won't do idiotic things like jump on a birther-equivalent bandwagon, but they have explicitly set out to fuck over women, minorities, and the poor. That deserves no respect in my book. I will acknowledge that he is the President, and I will respect the institution of the office, but he won't get one iota of respect as a person unless he takes a radical turn from where he's currently headed.
edited 19th Oct '12 2:33:54 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Hey, Lost.
If it makes you feel any better, Nate Silver (who has an incredible history of being right) says every time the Gallup poll is an outlier this late in the election means it is usually wrong.
On top of that, Silver points out that the state polls still show Obama not only winning Ohio and Pennsylvania, but kicking ass in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Iowa, and barely leading in Virginia.
He's not screwed yet.
@ Fighteer:
You don't support an American-left version of a Right-Wing Militia Fanatic, then, especially if he/she/it condoned or planned to kill Romney? If he wins, it's going to happen...
edited 19th Oct '12 2:43:11 PM by Greenmantle
Keep Rolling On@Greenmantle: Absolutely not, even if there is such a thing. Seems like a rare beast indeed. I do expect "revolution of the masses" noises from the hard left if Romney wins, but that sort of thing only serves to distract people and give them a convenient scapegoat. Violence is not and never will be the answer, unless things get so bad that a full-scale revolution happens. And I don't want to be living in America if it does.
Further, even if I do sympathize with the rationale behind such an act, what would it make me look like to approve of the act itself? Hypocritical in the extreme, that's what.
Sorry, one more thing. Historically, leftists in the United States have accomplished their goals through nonviolence. Violence is an inherently conservative tactic and it must remain that way if we are ever to maintain credibility.
edited 19th Oct '12 2:51:22 PM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Right. Because unions have been historically non-violent...
edited 19th Oct '12 3:41:53 PM by Swish
That would mean President Ryan.
Have fun with that thought.
Man working for firm under contract to Va. GOP charged with voter registration fraud
edited 19th Oct '12 4:32:16 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016

Obama had a faux paw on The Daily Show last night! He stood up before Jon finished the outro of the interview, cutting him off! OH NO THE ELECTION IS LOST!