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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#337176: Nov 3rd 2020 at 7:33:32 AM

@Fourthspartan's post: Right. If I remember at the last debate, wasn't Biden's reply to why the Obama administration didn't get certain things done, "Republicans controlled Congress. Simple as that."

Dude was a long, long time Senator and, obviously, VP (who is technically President of the Senate and casts deciding votes when the Senate is tied). He knows this.

Exactly, the fundamental problem is that because of a lack of quality political education the average voter is not well suited to understanding the structural issues that can make implementing one's agenda difficult.

Even when it's as simple as "the other party controls Congress".

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Nov 3rd 2020 at 7:33:42 AM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#337177: Nov 3rd 2020 at 7:35:21 AM

How Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and Reddit are handling the election: The only thing messier than November 3 on social media might be November 4.

Scoop: Trump's plan to declare premature victory.

President Trump has told confidants he'll declare victory on Tuesday night if it looks like he's "ahead," according to three sources familiar with his private comments. That's even if the Electoral College outcome still hinges on large numbers of uncounted votes in key states like Pennsylvania.

Of course, being ahead will be entirely subjective here.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#337178: Nov 3rd 2020 at 7:38:32 AM

I had imagined Trump declaring victory the moment he woke up today. So waiting till the night probably strains whatever willpower he had.

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#337179: Nov 3rd 2020 at 7:39:52 AM

Trump's entire plan is to declare anything counted after election day fraudulent, then take it to the courts to try and get it thrown out, even though there is obviously no basis for that. But that can delay and sow confusion and the Republican extreme scenario is "keep faffing around until December when something HAS to be certified and the state legislatures can send whoever".

Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf Since: Jan, 2019
I actually wanted to be Resileaf
#337180: Nov 3rd 2020 at 7:42:02 AM

[up][up]It's probably taking all his willpower to not just outright say that only Republican area polling stations should be counted. :P

Edited by Resileafs on Nov 3rd 2020 at 10:42:54 AM

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#337181: Nov 3rd 2020 at 7:44:31 AM

Exclusive: Tired of Trump, Deutsche Bank games ways to sever ties with the president - sources

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-deutsche-bank-exclusive-idUSKBN27J0G0

    An Excerpt 
Deutsche Bank AG is looking for ways to end its relationship with President Donald Trump after the U.S. elections, as it tires of the negative publicity stemming from the ties, according to three senior bank officials with direct knowledge of the matter.

Deutsche Bank has about $340 million in loans outstanding to the Trump Organization, the president’s umbrella group that is currently overseen by his two sons, according to filings made by Trump to the U.S. Office of Government Ethics in July and a senior source within the bank. The three loans, which are against Trump properties and start coming due in two years, are current on payments and personally guaranteed by the president, according to two bank officials.

In meetings in recent months, a Deutsche Bank management committee that oversees reputational and other risks for the lender in the Americas region has discussed ways in which it could rid the bank of these last vestiges of the relationship, two of the three bank officials said. The bank has over the years lent Trump more than $2 billion, one of the officials said.

One idea that has come up in the meetings: sell the loans in the secondary market, two of the bank officials said. But one of the officials said that idea has not gained traction, in part because it is not clear who would want to buy the loans and the attendant problems that come with it.

While it was known that Deutsche Bank has been closely examining its relationship with Trump, including by setting up a working group in 2016 to review the bank’s relationship with him, its recent eagerness to end all ties and the contours of discussions in light of the election have not been previously reported.

Deutsche Bank declined to comment. The Trump Organization did not respond to requests for comment. The White House declined to comment.

Edited by sgamer82 on Nov 3rd 2020 at 7:44:46 AM

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#337182: Nov 3rd 2020 at 7:45:57 AM

Indian village where Kamala Harris's grandfather born holds prayer ceremony for her

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
megarockman from The Sixth Borough (Experienced Trainee)
#337183: Nov 3rd 2020 at 7:52:45 AM

[up][up]How much would DB have to eat if they just wrote off the loans as a loss?

The damned queen and the relentless knight.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#337184: Nov 3rd 2020 at 7:52:48 AM

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/03/republicans-trump-election-threats-433910

The Republicans are all Collins.

"They're...concerned."

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#337185: Nov 3rd 2020 at 7:56:42 AM

Honestly, then can suck it if they aren't willing to actually do anything about it. If they actually cared about anything besides passing their garbage agenda, we probably wouldn't be in this position.

nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#337186: Nov 3rd 2020 at 8:04:37 AM

The headline is incredible and says everything about these people. "Republicans publicly silent, privately disgusted by Trump's election threats"

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#337187: Nov 3rd 2020 at 8:13:13 AM

I don't care how personally repulsed whatever remains of their consciences may be by Trump's actions. If they refuse to actually do something or even speak out against it, it's worthless.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#337189: Nov 3rd 2020 at 8:15:22 AM

It's not known for certain how much Deutsche Bank has in outstanding loans to Trump, but it's in the hundreds of millions at least. Many suspect that these loans are funded by Russian oligarchs with ties to Putin, but if Trump is no longer useful to Putin, they may hang him out to dry.

Edited by Fighteer on Nov 3rd 2020 at 11:15:35 AM

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
FCMacbeth The Man with a Different Mind from Land Below the Wind (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Singularity
The Man with a Different Mind
#337190: Nov 3rd 2020 at 8:17:03 AM

Let them lose their votes, then. If there's a tiny hole ready to be poked further, use it to the advantage...provided if it affects the Republicans greatly.

Crazy stupid in battle. Crazy cupid on a nice date.
nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#337191: Nov 3rd 2020 at 8:24:38 AM

[up][up][up][up] Exactly. It reminds of "Anonymous", the Trump administration official who penned the "I Am Part of the Resistance" op-ed, whose department oversaw some of the most cruel and heinous parts of Trump's immigration policy.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#337192: Nov 3rd 2020 at 8:26:54 AM

I think long-term if the "right" in the US is ever going to have a pretense of being respectable, something is going to have to be about outlets like Fox News.

It's one thing to have a conservative leaning POV, it's another to use all your airtime to promote hysteria and humor conspiracy theories like birtherism. It completely erodes their viewer's critical thinking skills and presents a totally distorted view of reality to the point some people legitimately think Trump is going to win in a landslide when at best he will eke out an electoral college win with a handful of votes in key states just like last time. The republican politicians are then beholden to these people completely and have no choice but to keep placating them with more racism and xenophobia.

I don't know what the solution to this is, honestly.

TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#337193: Nov 3rd 2020 at 8:48:38 AM

[up] They can start by "Following program is a work of fiction. Any similarities to real people or real life events are purely coincidental and has zero relevance to the real people whatsoever..." whenever Fox broadcasts anything on their channel.

And keep this message up for ten seconds every time so the readers really can get to read through it first.

Edited by TitanJump on Nov 3rd 2020 at 5:49:05 PM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#337194: Nov 3rd 2020 at 9:01:33 AM

You lie down with dogs, you get flees.

The Republicans are responsible for feeding the Beast.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
PresidentStalkeyes Eats moldy bread and flies into windows from United Kingdom of England-land Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Do you like me? (Yes ⎕ Definitely ⎕ Absolutely!!! ⎕)
Eats moldy bread and flies into windows
#337195: Nov 3rd 2020 at 9:07:03 AM

Random sidenote; I just discovered that one of the biggest distributors of pro-Trump memes on social media, Dan Bongino, is this former Secret Service guy who worked for Obama and Bush, and he once said 'my life is all about owning the libs now'. You know, when we talked about alt-right commentators wanting to 'own the libs' I never actually thought they really said that. And it's especially surprising and a little sad hearing it come from a grown man who used to work for the Secret Service, as opposed to the teenage edgelords I typically associate it with. :V

Edited by PresidentStalkeyes on Nov 3rd 2020 at 5:07:34 PM

Those sell-by-dates won't stop me because I can't read!
nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#337196: Nov 3rd 2020 at 9:08:06 AM

Axios: Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals rules against throwing out Harris County drive-thru votes.

The 5th Circuit Court of Appeals denied late Monday a Republican effort to invalidate 127,000 ballots that had already been cast via drive-through voting stations across Harris County, Texas, after a federal district judge rejected the same request.

carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#337197: Nov 3rd 2020 at 9:29:36 AM

Jesus fuck. My family went to the polls today and the Qcultists were trying to block people from the building . According to my sister they crowded around my 80 yr old grandparents car screaming "die of covid you old cunts" and my grandfather fought one back with a machete he keeps in his car. Police never showed up after half a dozen people called.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#337198: Nov 3rd 2020 at 9:31:20 AM

[up]Jesus fuck. Are you all alright?

Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#337199: Nov 3rd 2020 at 9:32:51 AM

[up]x2 Holy shit. Hope you're safe.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#337200: Nov 3rd 2020 at 9:36:26 AM

Holy hell. Fuck these people.


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