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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I'm reminded of when RationalWiki compared Trump to those kids in school elections that promise to give everyone who votes for them a free cookie or somesuch. I'm sure if Trump gets really desperate later, he really will promise to give everyone a free cookie. But a really big one, a YUGE one, much bigger and tastier than crooked Hillary's cookies, they got too much raisin in them, and very good trusted sources say raisin is very bad. :V
Those sell-by-dates won't stop me because I can't read!Trump just ended HealthCare.gov in Georgia
A bit surprised given the focus Georgia has been getting that this hasn't come up here, or that they'd choose to do this now. But, there it is. Could result in tens of thousands of people losing healthcare coverage. Also, might be beyond the administrations power, but it's been brought up a lot of how little that actually matters to them.
Trump winning Millsfield 16-5 does mean that we can't stop counting ballots after all the small New Hampshire towns have voted and declare Biden the winner based on sweeping Dixville Notch.
Also, these elections are usually community events with food and a packed media
, which obviously is not happening this year.
Edited by tclittle on Nov 3rd 2020 at 3:25:08 AM
"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."The Election Results thread
is now live. Please take specific discussions of the results there to keep this thread about all the voter intimidation and suppression efforts by the Trump side. (Not actually kidding, even though I hope I am.)
Edited by Fighteer on Nov 3rd 2020 at 7:02:15 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"When people contrast US politics with the rest of the world, or with Europe specifically, it seems to be normally with regard to specific socioeconomic policies like public health care and the welfare state. Pretty much every other developed country, and many developing countries, have some form of public health care that to some degree accepted by the major parties.
That said, getting public health care established is generally a bigger battle than keeping it, so it’s not an exactly equal comparison.
On guns and the sheer scale of the prison system, the US is also an outlier among wealthy democracies.
Many, many countries have their own problems with oppression and mistreatment of minorities, so most of us can’t claim to be way more progressive than the US on minority rights issues.
In short - the position of the US on the political spectrum relative to other democracies varies policy by policy.
Edited by Galadriel on Nov 3rd 2020 at 7:53:14 AM
Yeah and that’s before one accounts for the broad-tent nature of US politics. Some Democrats are right-wing by other country’s standards, some are centrists and some are left-wing, but they all operate within a single party and different factions can be more influential at different times.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranI think it's mostly people being ignorant of European politics. The Democratic Party contains lots of factions which would distribute over the left half of the European political spectrum.
Now, the Republicans being a far right party in Europe? Yeah, that one's correct. You need to go to the far right limits of the political spectrum to find GOP equivalents, things like Swiss and German FDP, Swiss SVP, German CDU/CSU and Austrian ÖVP would be on the left side of the present-day Republican Party.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanProgressive Democrats get seats in congress, hell the Congressional Progressive Caucus has 95 house seats and there are now also two members of the Democratic-Socialists of America in Congress.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran![]()
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True. Because of the first-past-the-post voting system, factions that are represented by separate parties in some countries are all in one party in the US, giving the illusion that the Democratic party is conservative by European standards.
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We do have an objectively correct candidate. His name is Joe Biden.
There is nothing so terrible about Biden that it makes a second term of Donald Trump a reasonable alternative.
Donald Trump is a boob* who proves weekly, if not daily, that he has no business in the office. Their policies don't even enter into it. Biden at his worst is still better than Trump at his best.
* Apologies to all womens' chests and booby birds everywhere.
Edited by sgamer82 on Nov 3rd 2020 at 5:35:40 AM

Hang on - we're still having the election? According to those official results, Trump's ahead in New Hampshire, therefore ahead in both the electoral collage AND the popular vote!
Why has he not dropped the balloons, fired the tickertape and declared total and absolute victory for life?
Pagetopper: this is in response to the results from two tiny hamlets in New Hampshire which traditionally vote at midnight and count their votes straight away.
Edited by singularityshot on Nov 3rd 2020 at 12:02:27 PM