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NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#337076: Nov 2nd 2020 at 10:48:43 PM

[up][up] Would not surprise me at all if they privately all worshiped The Wyrm instead.

Man what a pagetopper.

I heard Trump say something along the lines of thinking it was unfair to count votes coming in after November 3rd, and that he should get to discard them all.

Edited by NickTheSwing on Nov 2nd 2020 at 10:49:28 AM

doctor05 Since: Sep, 2015
#337077: Nov 2nd 2020 at 10:52:51 PM

[up] i wonder if he would be saying that if it was him that needed late vote to beat Biden.

Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#337078: Nov 2nd 2020 at 10:53:05 PM

He thinks it's illegal to call the election after Election Day.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#337079: Nov 2nd 2020 at 11:01:23 PM

I actually had pretty jarring run with this recently. Remember that study that was posted about how the Republicans are closer to ultra-right authoritarian parties than typical center-right Western European ones?

Well, that same study also outlined how the Democrats compare. And even though they had data in their faces telling them that's not true I still saw people repeating this claim. It was a bit surreal.

I guess they either want to think that Europe is more leftwing than it is or that the USA is more rightwing than it is. Or both.

Disgusted, but not surprised
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#337080: Nov 2nd 2020 at 11:05:37 PM

Or are just working on outdated information for whatever reason.

NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#337081: Nov 2nd 2020 at 11:11:23 PM

That's a pretty common idea on the far left - mostly the anti-imperialist far left. Who unironically can say the US is a fascist evil hellhole, but North Korea and China? Perfectly okay great places to live.

FCMacbeth The Man with a Different Mind from Land Below the Wind (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Singularity
The Man with a Different Mind
#337082: Nov 2nd 2020 at 11:18:04 PM

Weird. It's always a mindset that says 'imperialism is only evil if it's ruled by white people because Asian people never oppressed anyone'.

Crazy stupid in battle. Crazy cupid on a nice date.
PresidentStalkeyes Eats moldy bread and flies into windows from United Kingdom of England-land Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Do you like me? (Yes ⎕ Definitely ⎕ Absolutely!!! ⎕)
Eats moldy bread and flies into windows
#337083: Nov 2nd 2020 at 11:20:02 PM

Would not surprise me at all if they privately all worshiped The Wyrm instead.

Hey now, don't slander the Worm like that. The Worm has always loved us, thus it always has. What was will be, what will be was.

Jokes aside, I suspect the whole 'SOCIALISM BAD' meme in American politics has created the impression that Europe is way more left-wing than it really is purely because us cheese-eating, chianti-drinking kraut-vikings don't reflexively recoil at the mere hint of the concept in someone's political platform. Us Brits tend to be an exception to this portrayal, I think, and considering in the last election there were seriously still people pushing that 'Hitler was a Socialist therefore Jeremy Corbyn is Hitler' wankery last year, I can understand why. :V

Those sell-by-dates won't stop me because I can't read!
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#337084: Nov 2nd 2020 at 11:22:28 PM

Asian people never oppressed anyone

My reaction when someone says this unironically:

Disgusted, but not surprised
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#337085: Nov 2nd 2020 at 11:22:49 PM

That's a pretty common idea on the far left - mostly the anti-imperialist far left. Who unironically can say the US is a fascist evil hellhole, but North Korea and China? Perfectly okay great places to live.

This reminds me of George R.R. Martin talking about how he hoped that when he attended college he could get into the hippie movement and free love. When he arrived, he found the Left had transformed into Maoists.

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Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#337086: Nov 2nd 2020 at 11:24:47 PM

So. It's time.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
FCMacbeth The Man with a Different Mind from Land Below the Wind (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Singularity
The Man with a Different Mind
#337087: Nov 2nd 2020 at 11:27:29 PM

[up][up]Hmm, it's always the case of 'fight fire with fire'. Not like the hippies will be praising Chairman Mao 24/7 but I supposed some hippies turn their attention to the more...violent mindsets. They don't go killing a bunch of conservatives but these type of people felt their peaceful methods didn't work for a country like the US.

Edit: [nja]'ed for the 1st time.

Edited by FCMacbeth on Nov 3rd 2020 at 3:28:10 AM

Crazy stupid in battle. Crazy cupid on a nice date.
Shaoken (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#337088: Nov 2nd 2020 at 11:35:58 PM

Should we post memes to help people get through the day?

And just for the lols, over on Twitter some random has gone on record predicting a 406 to 132 Trump win. Their methodology? Add 10-15% onto Trump's numbers from 2016 because of "Trump achievements, silent majority, honest Americans fed up with riots & Antifa, Dems behavior with Kavanaugh" And after ruling that California was impossible because Trump getting 15% more there still wouldn't be enough, later had a change of heart and predicted a Trump victory there to because some Trumpist in California spoke to him.

Needless to say more than a few people have made a point of checking in after the election to compare these predictions to Trump's actual results.

doctor05 Since: Sep, 2015
#337089: Nov 2nd 2020 at 11:35:59 PM

So when can we know the results?

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#337090: Nov 2nd 2020 at 11:41:08 PM

It is a mystery. Maybe tomorrow morning if things are super clear, maybe the end of the week, maybe next week.

PresidentStalkeyes Eats moldy bread and flies into windows from United Kingdom of England-land Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Do you like me? (Yes ⎕ Definitely ⎕ Absolutely!!! ⎕)
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#337091: Nov 2nd 2020 at 11:41:11 PM

[up][up][up]How do they rationalize the fact that actual pollsters surely would have noticed all of this?

Edited by PresidentStalkeyes on Nov 2nd 2020 at 7:41:18 PM

Those sell-by-dates won't stop me because I can't read!
AngrokVa indighost from america, unfortunately Since: Feb, 2012 Relationship Status: Saddled with unnecessary feelings
indighost
#337092: Nov 2nd 2020 at 11:41:21 PM

From CNN: Joe Biden takes all 5 votes in tiny township that is one of the first to announce results on Election Day

Former Vice President Joe Biden took all five of the votes cast for president in Dixville Notch, a tiny New Hampshire township along the US-Canada border that is among the first places in the country to make its presidential preference known.

The ballots were cast in the minutes after midnight, becoming some of the first cast and counted on Election Day.

By tradition, all eligible voters gather in the storied "Ballot Room" at The Balsams resort in Dixville Notch to cast their secret ballots once polls open at midnight. Once every ballot is cast, votes are tallied and results announced — hours before anywhere else, making it a favored spot for reporters and observers eager for any hints of what is to come on Election Day.

Despite the attention, the unincorporated township in New Hampshire's northern tip isn't always predictive of the eventual winner, or even the state's pick.

In 2016, Dixville Notch went for then-Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, even though then-GOP nominee Donald Trump went on to win the Electoral College.

Nearby Millsfield also opened its polls at midnight. Trump won Millsfield 16-5 over Biden.

The pandemic, though, scuttled plans for midnight voting in Hart's Location, a town further south and tucked in the White Mountains, officials told WMUR. All 48 voters there can cast ballots during normal daylight hours rather than the traditional midnight ballot count.

But Dixville Notch voters won't have to worry about any lines come midnight — there were only 12 residents of the township as of the 2010 census.

The early-hours voting tradition has held in primary and general elections since 1960, despite the municipality's dwindling population and a brief question of how it would hold its February primary after the town's selectman moved away, meaning no one was available to help administer the election.

Fortunately for the political junkies who have taken to Dixville Notch, that position was filled and the tradition continues for its 60th year.

So, on one hand, Biden clean-sweeping Dixville Notch gives me some hope. On the other hand, Trump winning Millsfield 16-5 is worrying.

Shaoken (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
#337093: Nov 2nd 2020 at 11:43:16 PM

Unless Biden wins Florida or Texas upfront it'll take a few days given the number of states that don't count mail in votes until election day. Pennsylvania will take days to get a clear winner unless Biden wins the in-person vote by such a ludicrously large margin that there is no way the early voting can offset that.

How do they rationalize the fact that actual pollsters surely would have noticed all of this?

Fake News and all that usually jazz.

Edited by Shaoken on Nov 3rd 2020 at 6:46:12 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#337094: Nov 2nd 2020 at 11:44:51 PM

I'd suggest sitting this out if you've already voted. We're not going to know the full results for a while anyway.

Disgusted, but not surprised
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#337095: Nov 2nd 2020 at 11:46:54 PM

[up][up][up] Can we not start the fretting over early vote counts already? [lol]

nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#337096: Nov 2nd 2020 at 11:47:22 PM

So, on one hand, Biden clean-sweeping Dixville Notch gives me some hope. On the other hand, Trump winning Millsfield 16-5 is worrying.
You are joking, right? The sample size is so miniscule that there isn't much point in analyzing this stuff.


Add 10-15% onto Trump's numbers from 2016 because of "Trump achievements, silent majority, honest Americans fed up with riots & Antifa, Dems behavior with Kavanaugh"

It's almost like the 2018 midterms never happened.

Alycus Since: Apr, 2018
#337097: Nov 2nd 2020 at 11:48:53 PM

New Hampshire is not going to decide the election. This is just a small town quirk.

AngrokVa indighost from america, unfortunately Since: Feb, 2012 Relationship Status: Saddled with unnecessary feelings
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#337099: Nov 2nd 2020 at 11:54:56 PM

How do they rationalize the fact that actual pollsters surely would have noticed all of this?

Probably by yelling fake news and sniffing some more glue.

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
Wispy Since: Feb, 2017
#337100: Nov 2nd 2020 at 11:55:52 PM

[up][up][up][up]They also forgetting Trump lost on the popular vote in the 2016 Election. The silent majority they always constantly holler about isn't as prominent as they like to make themselves out to be.

Edited by Wispy on Nov 2nd 2020 at 11:56:07 AM


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