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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
At the sametime I think people shouldn't overestimate number of stupid people in America. So far in elections in South Korea and NZ people voted for current government who handled covid VERY well. I have a theory that says covid will play very important role in this election and since Trump FAILED to ride it, he will pay the consequences.
Just being hopeful. I really do hope Biden wins this.
It does need to be kept in mind that conscious malice plays a role in Trump's support. That people are suffering and dying under Trump's leadership is not a flaw to a voter that wants certain groups of people to suffer and die.
Don't forget that revealing quote from the Trump regretter that went memetic in 2017: "He's hurting the wrong people."
Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 30th 2020 at 7:27:52 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.And another thing... Trump needs to go for the sake of Republicans as well. Look Republicans are using Trump like a drug... like a steroids. They think instead of making a real muscle using a Trump will make them win. I do hope losing this election would send enough of a shock to reform the party. That Trump method isn't a win-all cheat.
Edited by doctor05 on Oct 30th 2020 at 7:35:36 AM
In Terry Pratchett's Discworld, they had an aging Conan the Barbarian character analog that had extreme problems interpreting pledges as empty bravado — as a man of his word, he naturally assumes that anyone else saying something like 'I would rather die than betray the Emperor' fully means it. This led to the deaths of several guards and courtiers in the Agatean Empire before everyone wised up.
What does this have to do with Trump?
Many Trump voters are wising up to the reality that, yes, he expects them to die for them.
If a Blue Deluge happens, it won't be because of racism or people realizing that's wrong, BLM protest success or not, it will be because of Covid-19.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Oct 30th 2020 at 7:37:33 AM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.The chances of a successful court challenge to the election are very slim. There are a few cases that could have long-term election effects, but the 2020 election isn’t going to be stolen in court. Continuing voter suppression is more concerning.
They should have sent a poet.It will make a difference to the people who care. And the people who care were already going to vote Biden.
That's the thing about Trump, and his approval numbers show it remains true even now. There is literally nothing that could ever convince his base to abandon him, and there is literally nothing that could ever convince anyone else to support him. Nobody stops supporting Trump, nobody starts supporting Trump. His approval ratings have been impossibly stable for his entire Presidency, minus that rough first year in 2017.
The deciding factor of this election will be whether more of us vote and have our votes counted than them.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 30th 2020 at 7:38:10 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I've heard MAGA cultists state that they would rather abandon the United States entirely and move to Costa Rica or someplace similar because they refuse to live "under socialist rule" in any form or with Biden as president.
(Yes, it is the dumbest thing I've heard but hey, they stopped thinking critically the moment they let Trump "think for them" instead.)
Their hatred and delusion in regards to the Democratic party might force them to leave and become "immigrants living on welfare" in other countries instead.
(Oh, the irony is so amazing that I actually hope they leave in their childish temper-tantrums... and discover how harsh reality really is for once.)
Ehhh, Tobias Drake, that isn't quite true. As has been noted in this thread, spikes in COVID-19 cases are typically followed by a decline of Trump's per state/county approval.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
It's definitely possible. Trump is still favored, but Biden has, as you said, a 1/3 chance of winning the state, which is pretty decent. Democrats have been working hard at turning out voters, and the Texas suburbs are trending more blue. I don't know if this is the year it happens, but keeping my fingers crossed.
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IMHO, Texas should be filed under don't expect it to happen, but don't be surprised if it does, either.
Edited by nova92 on Oct 30th 2020 at 7:51:04 AM
Bloomberg
has some very interesting data on the population of each state, showing the population of noneligible voters (<18 and noncitizens) and disenfranchised citizens, as well as current early vote turnout and 2016 turnout. Wish it was a tad bit more interactive and had better labeling of numbers (the 2020 turnout numbers are a few days out-of-date as well), but very cool all the same.

I would like to belive that Democrats have got this and people would not vote for president who have FAILED TO HANDLE COVID
Edited by doctor05 on Oct 30th 2020 at 7:12:16 AM