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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Even though they probably would all hate me if they knew me, it's hard not to feel sorry for them. They've devoted their lives, their entire identities, to a man who doesn't give a shit about them. They pledge their undying support to him and in return he treats them like garbage.
And what's worse is that I don't think this incident will even change their minds. Trump's spell over them is unbreakable.
No beer?! But if there's no beer, then there's no beef or beans!Voter turnout in Texas is now over 90% of its total 2016 turnout. Which means that it should surpass 2016 turnout even before we hit election day.
I expect that is, in large part, due to Texas being a swing state in this election: people, Republican, Democrat, or independent, are responding to the fact that their vote matters. It’s a microcosm view of what getting rid of the electoral college could achieve.
@Tye Dye Wildebeest: It's more that they are terribly frightened of Democrats and Liberals, and they think Trump is the last person who can protect them from us.
Edited by DeMarquis on Oct 28th 2020 at 5:45:04 AM
I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.There's a lot of things besides the electoral college although yes that is a problem. Voting should be easy and painless for everyone and not a torturous slog where you have to jump through hoops and still worry about a crook throwing your vote away.
Also with regards to texas specifically, i've often heard it said that it's less that texas is a deep red state and more that it's a state where most people don't vote. A lot of young professionals (in tech especially) have been moving to texas in the last few years I heard, and I think they trend blue so that and the large amount of latinx people probably has something to do with it.
Edited by Draghinazzo on Oct 28th 2020 at 6:49:00 AM
Yeah, it's easy to forget from the outside that Texas is actually a state of massive urban centers. Houston is the 4th largest city in the country and 5 of the most populous US 13 cities are in Texas.
It's just that for the last few decades those urban centers have been counterbalanced by Texas also being a state of vast rural expanses. But the urban centers have been getting more massive over the years and that was always going to start flipping some of the statewide elections blue eventually.
Yeah Texas has a huge urban population, 6 of Texas’ cities have higher population than Wyoming. So if one wanted to actually balance the senate for democrats it’s not about just adding DC, you break Texas into 4-6 city-state states and 1 Rural Texas state.
Edited by Silasw on Oct 28th 2020 at 10:09:41 AM
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranThat's part of why people have been fixated on the idea of texas turning blue for years now. If it was a consistently blue state the GOP would be absolutely decimated and would have an extremely hard time ever electing a president again, because it's worth 38 electoral votes, one of the highest counts of any state. Even if it just consistently became a swing state that would be a huge deal because they would be forced to spend a lot of time and resources to secure it, which would mean less they would be able to spend on other swing states.
Isn't there a provision in Texas's Constitution that allows it to be broken up into 5 different states? Dems should get on that after the election.
Edited by Karxrida on Oct 28th 2020 at 3:19:48 AM
My understanding is that it was entirely up to Texas if it wanted to become up to 5 states, and it's legally questionable if that provision of the treaty that admitted the country of Texas into the United States could still be activated today or whether it was more something they only had to option to do immediately upon joining.
In all likelihood an attempt by Texas to break up unilaterally would end up before the Supreme Court. Who would probably only support it in an environment where congress would sign off on the breakup anyways, rendering this point moot since any State can break itself up if they get Congress to sign off on it. That's what happened with Main and Massachusetts pretty early on, and what happened on paper with Virginia and West Virginia.
Edited by Falrinn on Oct 28th 2020 at 4:25:52 AM
Simple majority, as far as I'm aware.
On that note, Puerto Rico is having another (I believe this is the sixth one) referendum on that question on election night. And support for statehood in D.C. is already known to be widespread (what was it, like 80~90% of the city? More?).
Edited by LSBK on Oct 28th 2020 at 6:29:37 AM
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They already tried something like that in 2012 and didn't really work.
Really, from what I can gleam these referendums run into issues largely stemming from from one of the major parties actively trying to boycott them and just a general sense that they don't matter because it's not like Congress is going to care about what they want either way.
Edited by LSBK on Oct 28th 2020 at 6:46:38 AM
Why do people want D.C. to be a state, again? Is it just to add seats to the Senate?
It's actually illegal for existing states to break up. The topic only ever gets brought up with Texas because of the aforementioned treaty possibly providing a loophole.
Edited by Karxrida on Oct 28th 2020 at 4:51:13 AM

Guess who went to vote in Florida and found his address had been changed without his permission? None other than Ron DeSantis.
Pity not everyone is the governor who can have this investigated at their leisure.
Edited by Draghinazzo on Oct 28th 2020 at 6:32:26 AM