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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#335851: Oct 28th 2020 at 12:31:32 PM

I also have to wonder what world Kushner was in to think that Trump could somehow let the governors do the work for him and take credit. That would have required Trump shutting up and not sabotaging things.

I'm sure he must have talked to Trump at some point to know how feasible that is.

That might have made sense in 2017, when a lot of Republicans thought they could control Trump. In 2020, they should know that the only way to control Trump is to imprison him on a golf course without a cell phone.

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#335852: Oct 28th 2020 at 12:56:50 PM

"It doesn't help that armed pockets of "militias" (aka "armed domestic terrorist groups") made entirely of Trump's cultists"

Actually, the militia movement is mostly law-abiding, and a very diverse group of people in terms of their views. A good many of them are not at all comfortable with Trump, esp. after his use of Federal agents to clear the street of protesters.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#335853: Oct 28th 2020 at 12:59:16 PM

Trump isn't a politician, he just plays one on TV. This means he doesn't really think in terms of political gain or advantage, he only thinks in personal terms.

This is likely part of why he wanted to downplay the covid crisis. He doesn't take it as a political challenge or a chance to win points. He sees it as a personal threat, as something that will make him look weak if he admits to it.

With Trump, everything is personal, and that means he sometimes cannot see the broader opportunities things like a crisis provide to bolster his image and power. Trump really is his own worst enemy.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#335854: Oct 28th 2020 at 1:01:26 PM

I need this election to be over so I can stop looking at headlines every two minutes.

Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#335855: Oct 28th 2020 at 1:03:13 PM

Just go on an extended TV Tropes wiki walk—that will distract you.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#335856: Oct 28th 2020 at 1:14:36 PM

But since you brought up headlines...

Remember that anonymous op-ed from a couple years back? Where someone in the administration wrote about how dysfunctional the White House was but there were people on the inside reigning in Trump's worst impulses? And then wrote a book with more details about it?

Well former Department of Homeland Security chief of staff Miles Taylor has come forward as the author.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#335857: Oct 28th 2020 at 1:17:04 PM

That's the one people thought Pence wrote?

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#335859: Oct 28th 2020 at 1:20:29 PM

Unless he prevented or sabotaged something utterly heinous that we don't know about, fuck him. He remained in a senior position in a department that is engaged in crimes against humanity and possibly genocide. He should have resigned well before he did.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#335860: Oct 28th 2020 at 1:24:22 PM

If he resigned because of those, that might be worth admiring.

I don't trust any Trumpeteer, though.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#335861: Oct 28th 2020 at 1:25:17 PM

I seem to recall that Trump has condemned white supremacists in the past, but only cursory, sort of. Not like "We must do something, everything we can, to stop these horrid people!" More like "White supremacists are bad. There, I said the thing I'm supposed to say."

jjjj2 from Arrakis Since: Jul, 2015
#335862: Oct 28th 2020 at 1:25:48 PM

Some people thought Bolton wrote it. That's who I was banking on, cause it contained phrases Bolton used.

You can only write so much in your forum signature. It's not fair that I want to write a piece of writing yet it will cut me off in the mid
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#335863: Oct 28th 2020 at 1:40:41 PM

He resigned last year and has publicly supported Biden. He does admit he was wrong to reassure people that officials would keep Trump from going off the rails.

"The country cannot rely on well-intentioned, unelected bureaucrats around the President to steer him toward what's right. He has purged most of them anyway. Nor can they rely on Congress to deliver us from Trump's wayward whims. The people themselves are the ultimate check on the nation's chief executive."

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#335864: Oct 28th 2020 at 1:41:05 PM

Some discussion about how Trump's post-election behaviour could influence the Senate runoffs in Georgia. Georgia is a big pickup opportunity for Democrats and could make the difference between Evil Turtle or Schumer holding the reins post-election, but it has runoffs and it's not a given they'll have the same outcome than the Election Day election.

Apparently Trump's rallies are deeply unpopular, which probably ties in with a) COVID-19 is a big issue and Trump is seen as incompetent at it, b) rallies are COVID-19 spreader hazards and c) more news about Trump might actually help Biden.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#335865: Oct 28th 2020 at 1:44:09 PM

Actually, the militia movement is mostly law-abiding, and a very diverse group of people in terms of their views.

How law-abiding they are tends to depend almost entirely on local law regarding open carry and armed assembly.

That said, militias gathering in public isn’t anything new. They’ve been doing it for decades.

Edited by archonspeaks on Oct 28th 2020 at 1:44:49 AM

They should have sent a poet.
TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#335866: Oct 28th 2020 at 1:52:32 PM

Apparently Trump's rallies are deeply unpopular, which probably ties in with a) COVID-19 is a big issue and Trump is seen as incompetent at it, b) rallies are COVID-19 spreader hazards and c) more news about Trump might actually help Biden.

Would you happen to know the source of the survey cited in the tweet?

[down] Thanks.

Edited by TyeDyeWildebeest on Oct 28th 2020 at 4:58:27 AM

No beer?! But if there's no beer, then there's no beef or beans!
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#335868: Oct 28th 2020 at 2:00:38 PM

What does Jaime Harrison have that Amy Mc Grath doesn't have?

Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#335869: Oct 28th 2020 at 2:03:19 PM

[up]Apparently the political system in Kentucky is entirely in Mitch Mc Connell's pocket, and in the opinion of many Mc Grath's campaign is not that great since she's been running on mitch failing trump or something.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#335870: Oct 28th 2020 at 2:06:33 PM

Also an opponent that’s seen as a spineless flip-flopping coward by Republicans.

Graham is seen as someone who isn’t devoted to the cause, as shown by him having been close friends with Mc Cain and having condemned Trump in the past. Mitch is very much devoted to power and conservative values at all cost.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#335871: Oct 28th 2020 at 2:08:03 PM

Apparently Trump's rallies are deeply unpopular, which probably ties in with a) COVID-19 is a big issue and Trump is seen as incompetent at it, b) rallies are COVID-19 spreader hazards and c) more news about Trump might actually help Biden.
Also Trump's last rally saw hundreds of people left stranded in the freezing cold to the point 7 were hospitalized for "a variety of conditions".

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/hundreds-trump-supporters-stuck-freezing-cold-omaha-airfield-after-rally-n1245065

ScubaWolf from South Carolina Since: Feb, 2020
#335872: Oct 28th 2020 at 2:17:41 PM

[up] I saw that as it became news last night before I got to sleep. Twitter was...less than empathetic to the people who went.

"In a move surprising absolutely no one"
MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#335873: Oct 28th 2020 at 2:20:24 PM

Very poor writing by whoever writes reality, I gotta say. He left his supporters out in the cold? That symbolism is as subtle as a sledgehammer to a watermelon.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#335874: Oct 28th 2020 at 2:20:33 PM

It's like the worst abusive relationship ever where you give everything but the other person just spits on you over and over and you just keep coming back for more. Honestly after everything that's happened my sympathy for people like them is fairly limited.

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#335875: Oct 28th 2020 at 2:20:39 PM

[up][up][up]It's not that hard to NOT go to an outside event in almost below freezing weather.

Edited by NoName999 on Oct 28th 2020 at 2:20:52 AM


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