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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#335826: Oct 28th 2020 at 10:38:07 AM

Well, what were you expecting from Kushner? He's basically the living breathing personification of both class/birth-based privilege and the Dunning-Kruger effect, with a bit of sociopathy added on top for good measure.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#335827: Oct 28th 2020 at 10:39:17 AM

Kushner is basically a cartoon villain of a children's show that crossed over into reality through a golden ticket and stayed here for all that is worse, as in this world "the bad guys can win.

...

Let karma smite him hard as quickly as possible.

Edited by TitanJump on Oct 28th 2020 at 6:40:02 PM

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#335828: Oct 28th 2020 at 10:39:41 AM

I remember John Oliver did an episode all about Kushner and Ivanka early on in the presidency and basically shot down the theory that they would be able/willing to temper Trump's wilder/most controversial ideas. People really wanted to believe A) That Trump could be power checked by advisors and/or Congress, and B) That his closest advisors (save Bannon) didn't believe the same deplorable things he did.

...Yeah, so much for both of those.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#335829: Oct 28th 2020 at 10:42:43 AM

The only thing that can definitively kill Trump's chances are a) the COVID-19 situation getting much worse or b) an unexpected hurricane strike on Election Day in a state where all Trump voters are voting in-person.

I mean that's technically happening right now with Zeta?

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#335830: Oct 28th 2020 at 10:45:43 AM

I know it's pointless to ask, but who the fuck would think Bannon of all people doesn't support Trump's ideas? The guy's an open white supremacist who compares himself to Darth Vader of all things.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Oct 28th 2020 at 2:45:56 PM

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#335831: Oct 28th 2020 at 10:45:45 AM

I don't think Zeta is going to hang around off the Gulf Coast until November 3rd.

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#335832: Oct 28th 2020 at 10:47:56 AM

I don't think that Woodwards video will affect Donald's political chances this late in the election, but it will almost certainly damage Kushner's.

Just in case he was thinking of trying for some kind of political dynasty.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#335833: Oct 28th 2020 at 10:49:37 AM

I also have to wonder what world Kushner was in to think that Trump could somehow let the governors do the work for him and take credit. That would have required Trump shutting up and not sabotaging things.

I'm sure he must have talked to Trump at some point to know how feasible that is.

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#335834: Oct 28th 2020 at 10:51:20 AM

One thing that I've learned from all the exposes is that talking to Donald Trump is a little like summoning Beelzebub: you want to do it carefully and strategically.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#335835: Oct 28th 2020 at 10:51:40 AM

I don't think that Woodwards video will affect Donald's political chances this late in the election

I think it'll at least upstage any possible developments with that Hunter Biden laptop story.

Though I don't know how many people took that seriously to begin with...

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#335836: Oct 28th 2020 at 10:53:28 AM

The thought stuck in my head is why Woodward is only showing this stuff off now if he's had it since April (or sooner if he's also the one who had proof Trump knew the severity of COVID sooner than he claimed.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#335837: Oct 28th 2020 at 11:01:28 AM

This aside, Kushner lacks the charisma for electoral politics.

Edited by Rationalinsanity on Oct 28th 2020 at 3:17:34 PM

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#335838: Oct 28th 2020 at 11:10:25 AM

I think it'll at least upstage any possible developments with that Hunter Biden laptop story.

Though I don't know how many people took that seriously to begin with...

Outside of the MAGA media sphere, not many. Even Ted Cruz said he didn't think it swayed anyone.

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#335839: Oct 28th 2020 at 11:26:38 AM

Ugh. Why is everyone around Trump so...slimy.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
ShinyCottonCandy Everyone's friend Malamar from Lumiose City (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Everyone's friend Malamar
#335840: Oct 28th 2020 at 11:27:09 AM

Like attracts like.

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#335841: Oct 28th 2020 at 11:28:20 AM

[up][up][up] I think 4 years of Trump has made the general population pretty numb to scandals in general, regardless of their credibility.

Edited by Falrinn on Oct 28th 2020 at 11:28:50 AM

SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#335842: Oct 28th 2020 at 11:30:26 AM

Which is why we need to vote them out.

Biden at this point is clearly more popular, but he needs the right states in order to win. It might be close in the electoral college, close enough that Trump might try to use the courts to give himself the victory. I hope that doesn’t happen, and it might not, but if it does, then what?

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#335843: Oct 28th 2020 at 11:33:13 AM

While technically true, it's a bit misleading to say that Biden need the right states in the Electoral College to win.

That's far more a problem for Trump, and while I get hatred of the electoral college in general, the narrative that Trump somehow has more paths to victory strikes me as a bit alarmist.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#335844: Oct 28th 2020 at 11:38:59 AM

[up] Yeah, basically for every path Trump has to victory, Biden has two paths where he wins Texas and crushes Trump in an epic landslide.

Obviously there is always going to be some uncertainty, and it's not over until it's over.note , but Biden is the clear favorite as things stand.

Edited by Falrinn on Oct 28th 2020 at 11:41:06 AM

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#335845: Oct 28th 2020 at 11:50:34 AM

The Republican half third of Hacks on Tap likes to mock Democrats as being the "neurotic" party. The ones whose first reaction to good news is to panic at the idea of being happy.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#335846: Oct 28th 2020 at 11:58:57 AM

Barring fanfiction worst timeline scenarios where "the supreme court just hands trump the election", the GOP needs a lot of things to go right in order to win. They either need to win in multiple swing states that are polling well for Biden and or/ close races in republican controlled swing states that they can feasibly steal. Like Septimus pointed out earlier, if Biden wins Winsconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania then trump can win every other swing state and still lose, including florida and texas.

[up]2016 has been traumatic to the point people have trouble accepting good news. To be honest it genuinely wouldn't surprise me if Biden actually overperforms in certain races.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Oct 28th 2020 at 4:03:21 PM

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A procrastination in of itself
#335847: Oct 28th 2020 at 12:06:39 PM

On Biden’s idea of a bipartisan group to explore Supreme Court reform, remember that a bipartisan group that still be formed such that it gives a particular kind of recommendation.

If a bipartisan reform group recommends something similar to court packing as a reform then Biden can implement it with much less public pushback.

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ScubaWolf from South Carolina Since: Feb, 2020
#335848: Oct 28th 2020 at 12:07:41 PM

For the Republicans to win would require a perfect storm working in their favor. But as this year has shown, the storm is against them, heavily. COVID-19, which should have been an easy sail to re-election should they had handled it responsibly, has become the bane of the party in how much worse it has gotten, how many lives it has ended, and how its now attacking the heads of the Republican Party. It has helped destroy the appearances that the party is anything but evil, anything but incompetent, anything but existing out of sheer malice for the American people.

And the people have noticed. States that have never thought to be anything but Republican strongholds are now appearing to be possible to flip. They've turned hard red states into possible purple states, something that wasn't thought to be possible just 4 years ago.

Edited by ScubaWolf on Oct 28th 2020 at 3:09:23 PM

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TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#335849: Oct 28th 2020 at 12:07:41 PM

It doesn't help that armed pockets of "militias" (aka "armed domestic terrorist groups") made entirely of Trump's cultists, has begun popping up like weeds ahead during this week in order to "prepare for when the democrats stages their coup against our CHOSEN ONE!" and walks out in the open with automatic rifles whenever peaceful democratic counter-protesters shows up...

For real.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#335850: Oct 28th 2020 at 12:15:46 PM

[up][up] That's the thing that gets me most, Skewed Priorities though it may sound.

Had the government handled COVID reasonably and responsibly, they could have sailed to reelection and looked fully deserving of doing so.

It's like Trump's inability to denounce nazis. It's such a no- brainer yet they can't grasp the basic logic.


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