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#33551: Oct 18th 2012 at 3:15:42 PM
Completion oldtimeytropey from Space Since: Apr, 2012
oldtimeytropey
#33552: Oct 18th 2012 at 4:16:11 PM

[up][up]A cooperative business is one in which the employees earn a share of the profits. The managers of each of the stores come together yearly and vote on what to do. They are usually formed out of necessity to survive when large retail grocery stores come to town. Pharmacies and hardware stores do this too.

This is done to attract the left leaning members of the community as well as creating a larger pool of money to direct their marketing towards.

The IGA, or Independent Grocers of America, is one of the largest in the US. Trader Joe's is, too, but Trader Joe's makes you take their name, so they're not exactly independent. The managers, employees, and owners of cooperative stores typically lean towards the Democratic party as they tend to be unionized.

IMHO, cooperatives are usually better on the customer service front as well as with the products. With exception to pharmacies. They may have it on the customer service, but they don't always carry the medicine and your prescriptions/medical information doesn't roll over store to store. Standardized corporate pharmacies are much better on that front.

And useless deviation from the topic.... now over.

edited 18th Oct '12 5:09:25 PM by Completion

DeviantBraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
Wandering Jew
#33553: Oct 18th 2012 at 5:03:32 PM

useless deviation

You rang? tongue

Mitt Romney ‘will not run again’ if campaign falls short, wife says

edited 18th Oct '12 5:03:51 PM by DeviantBraeburn

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Completion oldtimeytropey from Space Since: Apr, 2012
oldtimeytropey
#33554: Oct 18th 2012 at 5:09:55 PM

Why are they even talking about that at this moment?

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#33555: Oct 18th 2012 at 5:13:11 PM

[up][up]Wow, she could have kept that for later, and all. The subtext it gives off is horrible.

Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
NOT THE BEES
#33556: Oct 18th 2012 at 5:23:12 PM

Understandable, at least. His own unique antics aside, even being in the running will get you castigated badly enough that I wouldn't fault anyone for not being up for a second shot.

GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#33557: Oct 18th 2012 at 5:41:09 PM

What is Jon Husted citing as his justification for restricting early voting?

"If any new taxes are levied on me or the company" [then company go to shit and will have to let go of workers yadda yadda]

...why "on me"?

Why is a CEO's (or other company leader's) personal taxation getting into the issue here?

They have a job to do, and that is to run the company competently.

Does this mean that, if not paid enough, they will run the company less competently? If that's the case that would be blackmail against the entire company itself; shareholders ought to be fuckin' revolting against that. It would also prove that they're greedy bastards.

But if not because of that, then...?

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#33558: Oct 18th 2012 at 5:44:01 PM

@Jon Husted: Let's stick him with the stake that is the American justice system.

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#33559: Oct 18th 2012 at 5:44:29 PM

They are saying that if they or their shareholders earn less after taxes, they will shit on their companies until they get their money back.

It makes about as as much sense as people saying that if Obamacare was upheld, they would move to Canada.

edited 18th Oct '12 5:45:22 PM by Fighteer

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GlennMagusHarvey Since: Jan, 2001
#33560: Oct 18th 2012 at 5:45:24 PM

Which would fly in the face of like, all professional ethics.

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#33561: Oct 18th 2012 at 6:25:34 PM

Unfortunately, I think the voters will pick Romney because they're under the delusion that he'll work the economy better.

Even though he ranked 47th in terms of job creation.

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
#33562: Oct 18th 2012 at 6:27:16 PM

tell them is one thing. Inform them they vote a certain way or theyre fired is another.

For the umpteenth time, no where in any of the articles linked was anyone told that they would be fired if they did not vote a certain way! I don't understand where you keep getting this notion from. You're making a perfectly valid argument that has no relation to the actual facts of the matter.

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Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#33563: Oct 18th 2012 at 6:34:43 PM

Arthur Allen, CEO of ASG Software Solutions: "If we fail as a nation to make the right choice on November 6th, and we lose our Independence as a company, I don't want to hear any complaints regarding the fallout that will most likely come."

Intimidating your workers, huh? Call me paranoid, but that's a very damning quote.

edited 18th Oct '12 6:37:56 PM by Serocco

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TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#33564: Oct 18th 2012 at 6:35:38 PM

[up] As the old saying goes, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#33565: Oct 18th 2012 at 6:39:47 PM

edit: Oops.

edited 18th Oct '12 6:40:03 PM by Kostya

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#33566: Oct 18th 2012 at 6:43:54 PM

Bob Murray, CEO of Murray Energy: "We have only a little over a month left to go in this election fight. If we do not win, the coal industry will be eliminated, and so will your job, if you want to remain in this industry."

Again, another intimidating ploy to get your employees to vote for your guy. Even if he's concerned about his industry, he's trying to influence the way his employees vote, when it isn't his right.

edited 18th Oct '12 6:58:31 PM by Serocco

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#33567: Oct 18th 2012 at 6:46:07 PM

It's not a "if you individually don't vote this way" thing. It's a "we're making it exceedingly clear that if the election doesn't go the way we want, there are consequences. You might want to consider that when you're in the polls."

Again, stop making excuses for extortion. It's unseemly.

Completion oldtimeytropey from Space Since: Apr, 2012
oldtimeytropey
#33568: Oct 18th 2012 at 6:46:50 PM

The Murray guy sounds genuinely concerned as many people involved in the coal industry - including the workers - believe that Democrats are bad for the coal industry; the ASG guy is just a dick.

This is coming from a liberal homo Democrat.

edited 18th Oct '12 6:49:06 PM by Completion

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#33569: Oct 18th 2012 at 6:50:37 PM

David Siegel, CEO of Westgate Resorts: "If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, as our current president plans, I will have no choice but to reduce the size of this company."

Clearly pro-Romney, anti-Obama. Threatens to harm his own business and the jobs of his workers just because he thinks Obama wants to give him more taxes (even though Obama himself said he wants to lower corporate taxes in the debates against Romney).

edited 18th Oct '12 6:51:42 PM by Serocco

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#33570: Oct 18th 2012 at 6:55:20 PM

Husted should be charged with contempt of court at the very least. Obeying a judge's ruling ain't optional.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#33571: Oct 18th 2012 at 6:57:33 PM

Richard Lacks, CEO of Lacks Enterprises: "It is important that in November, you vote to improve your standard of living that will be through smaller government and less government."

Yet another executive telling his employees to vote for the guy that he wants to be president, which I'm assuming is Romney. I'll say again: Lacks, it's not your place to tell people who to vote for.

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#33572: Oct 18th 2012 at 7:04:14 PM

Dave Robertson, president of Koch Industries: "If we elect candidates who put unprecedented regulatory burdens on businesses, then many of our more than 50,000 US employees and contractors may suffer the consequences."

Again, another CEO that wants the employees to vote for his guy.

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#33573: Oct 18th 2012 at 7:05:24 PM

I want these CE Os to do two things. 1. Release your tax returns and show us how much you made last year. 2. Hire an independent firm to evaluate how much money these new taxes will cost you.

I will bet money that the first number will be around three times the size of second number.

Honestly though, companies are making record profits and their CE Os have been making an obscene amount of money. They have no right to play the fucking victim.

edit: Now I see what the other side of their strategy is. When Obama's elected they're going to fire a fuckton of people to make it look like he's ruining everything. Fucking assholes! Now I wish the government would just take over their businesses. They don't have the right to control them if they're going to fuck over the middle class like this.

edited 18th Oct '12 7:06:49 PM by Kostya

Serocco Serocco from Miami, Florida Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Serocco
#33574: Oct 18th 2012 at 7:07:20 PM

Another David Siegel quote: "I had my managers do a survey on every employee. If they liked Bush, we made them register to vote, but not if they liked Gore."

Says a lot about Siegel's priorities.

Stuff like this is why I want Obama to win. Just so I can see these guys Rage Quit.

In RWBY, every girl is Best Girl.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#33575: Oct 18th 2012 at 7:11:39 PM

Stuff like this is why I wouldn't mind if the government takes over these companies and gives them to people that actually want to help people rather than profit. I don't give a damn if that sounds communistic. I will take communism over these assholes.


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