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#335601: Oct 26th 2020 at 11:07:16 PM

Allowing parents to pledge their dependents into a mock-theocratic fascist parallel state regardless of geographic lines would be worse. At least there's resistance as things are now.

Giving up and saying "just split it" is condemning a lot of people.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#335603: Oct 27th 2020 at 1:34:37 AM

I know I'd be fucked.

Also, so would black majority communities inside the hell of Kentucky as part of The Kingdom of Jesusland.

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#335604: Oct 27th 2020 at 2:19:55 AM
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#335605: Oct 27th 2020 at 4:00:38 AM

EDIT: Please ignore this post.

Edited by MichaelKatsuro on Oct 27th 2020 at 12:00:56 PM

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#335606: Oct 27th 2020 at 4:05:07 AM

Six Reasons Not to Panic About the Election

This summary really helped put my mind at ease after last night's confirmation. I suspect y'all could use it too.

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MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#335607: Oct 27th 2020 at 4:07:14 AM

Going back a while: It's important not to reach cult mentality. It's one thing to cut out somebody from your life because we're talking about somebody so very toxic, or impossible to interact with, that this is your only option. It's another can o' cod entirely when that becomes your go-to answer for disagreements.

The term "cult mentality" isn't an exaggeration: That is how cults operate.

Portray your beliefs not just as something that most likely is true, but as sacred tenets that must never be questioned. When somebody points out a flaw in your thinking, or otherwise goes against your beliefs, cut that person out of your life. Eventually, you'll be surrounded only by people who believe the same things as you do. That way, you'll reinforce each other's convictions. One person will say, for instance, that Trump wants to repeat the Holocaust. Somebody else will agree that Trump definitely wants to, but just can't get away with it. It's obvious that Trump wants to repeat the Holocaust,

Anyone who asks "How do you know that Trump wants to repeat the Holocaust?" will be ostracized. Ostracizing somebody is easier than explaining how you "know" something that you have no real grounds for believing.

And that way, you end up like a typical cult member: "Only we are good. Our beliefs are obviously correct. Questioning us is evil, even if it's because what we say seems factually wrong."

Edited by MichaelKatsuro on Oct 27th 2020 at 12:08:47 PM

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#335608: Oct 27th 2020 at 4:23:10 AM

Way to frame people who are not sympathetic to Trump supporters here as borderline cultists.

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#335609: Oct 27th 2020 at 4:38:16 AM

I'll put it this way:

If you found out one of your friends was sympathetic to beliefs that are hostile to people like you, would you still want them in your life?

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#335610: Oct 27th 2020 at 4:51:26 AM

I'm glad people reached out to me when I was The Fundamentalist and a homophobe.

I'd like to state that as that person, it was on ME.

The burden was on ME to change. Also, people being disgusted and revolted by my actions DID help. Because it was a nice moment to help remind me, "Wait, maybe I'm the asshole."

Gratitutous Mitchell and Webb.

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Ayasugi Since: Oct, 2010
#335611: Oct 27th 2020 at 5:20:55 AM

Worldy Armand, 'emotionally disturbed’ man accused of setting Boston ballot box ablaze wasn’t trying to intimidate voters, DA says

I guess that's a relief if true? Also glad that Boston officials are telling people who might have had their ballots burned of the exact time frame and giving two contact methods for more information on whether you'll need to recast your votes.

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#335612: Oct 27th 2020 at 5:51:14 AM

[up][up]I agree that appeals to empathy are worth trying. The problem is when that doesn't work, there's not many other directions to continue in.

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#335613: Oct 27th 2020 at 6:25:44 AM

This is the value of centrist progressives, they can sometimes have enough common ground with social conservatives to get them to listen for a second or two and drag them over.

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#335614: Oct 27th 2020 at 6:34:42 AM

Centrist progressives, that's a new one.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#335615: Oct 27th 2020 at 6:42:22 AM

Progressives gotta start somewhere.

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#335616: Oct 27th 2020 at 6:49:25 AM

What about impeaching Barrett? Or finding something illegal she did and arresting her for it?

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#335617: Oct 27th 2020 at 6:50:20 AM

Not happening and not happening.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#335618: Oct 27th 2020 at 6:51:27 AM

You would need the latter to justify the former in any case.

That's why Trump's impeachment happened when it did. He was caught so red handed that, even if the outcome was inevitable, there was no justification not to impeach at that point.

Edited by sgamer82 on Oct 27th 2020 at 6:52:23 AM

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#335619: Oct 27th 2020 at 6:51:58 AM

[up][up][up]No good. Impeachment requires two thirds of the senate, which will never happen, and starting an investigation without at least something weird going on is just asking for trouble.

Edited by ShinyCottonCandy on Oct 27th 2020 at 9:52:12 AM

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#335620: Oct 27th 2020 at 6:52:06 AM

Appealing to a person's sense of empathy can be great when it works. The problem is, a lot of conservatives were never taught that they should have empathy for other human beings. Speaking as someone who grew up in a profoundly Republican household (my family still thinks George W. was one of the greatest Presidents of our time and my dad brags about his MAGA hat), conservative ideology has a lot of "Everyone for themselves" logic to it. I take care of me and you take care of you and if you're failing, that's on you.

I don't know how to explain to someone that they should care about other human beings.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 27th 2020 at 6:53:12 AM

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#335621: Oct 27th 2020 at 6:52:23 AM

As has been mentioned repeatedly, impeachment requires a two-thirds majority in the Senate, which is a nonstarter in the current political climate. Arresting someone without impeaching them technically wouldn't remove them from the office, so you wouldn't be able to fill the seat with someone else — and that's besides the fact that now we're talking about arresting someone on trumped-up charges for political gain, which is not something we should be stooping to.

Edited by NativeJovian on Oct 27th 2020 at 9:54:01 AM

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#335622: Oct 27th 2020 at 6:53:34 AM

[up][up]And that doesn't account for those who don't see non-white and/or non-rich people as human beings to begin with.

Edited by sgamer82 on Oct 27th 2020 at 6:53:48 AM

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#335623: Oct 27th 2020 at 6:53:42 AM

I think it'd be more viable to impeach Kavanough than Barret.

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#335624: Oct 27th 2020 at 6:54:52 AM

I take care of me and you take care of you and if you're failing, that's on you.

"And if I'm failing, that's also on you."

[up]More like slightly less non-viable.

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Oct 27th 2020 at 9:57:33 AM

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#335625: Oct 27th 2020 at 6:55:40 AM

Also a lot of these people tend to be Christians. They're Social Darwinists and they're Christians.

If Jesus can't convince them of the value of empathy, what hope do I have?

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