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GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#335451: Oct 26th 2020 at 2:33:28 PM

Just by giving the channel's thumbnails a quick once-over it looks very much like a run of the mill anti-woke drama/outrage channel. These people tend to be grifters at best, and fash at worst.

Do they watch Tim Pool at all, out of pure interest?

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#335452: Oct 26th 2020 at 2:35:08 PM

fash?

I'm getting a bit of a Bill Maher vibe from the channel: not really conservative, but disdainful of liberals all the same.

They watch Ryan George.

Edited by Redmess on Oct 26th 2020 at 10:36:37 AM

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GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#335453: Oct 26th 2020 at 2:35:32 PM

Fash means Fascist.

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#335454: Oct 26th 2020 at 2:50:11 PM

While Bill Maher, despite his dickishness, qualifies as a Liberal, Tim Pool is a Conservative in all but name, same as Sargon.

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#335455: Oct 26th 2020 at 2:52:46 PM

I'm just not sure how I'm going to convince someone who inherently distrusts any source I show them, and counters with "but how do you know they are nto biased?".

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#335456: Oct 26th 2020 at 2:53:04 PM

Honestly depending on your relationship with the person it may be impossible to get them out of the media bubble they’ve built for themself. People find it very difficult to do it with family that they see physically and live with.

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#335457: Oct 26th 2020 at 2:53:09 PM

Didn't Sargon try to run for UKIP recently? That basically qualifies him as a far-righter full out as far as i'm concerned.

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#335458: Oct 26th 2020 at 2:54:47 PM

Yeah I believe he stood for them at either the U.K. general election or the EU election that we had shortly before Brexit finalised.

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#335459: Oct 26th 2020 at 2:55:42 PM

And he single-handedly drove the party into the ground, so I actually applaude him for it.

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#335460: Oct 26th 2020 at 2:56:21 PM

@Redmess: If there's any angle that has even a chance a success, you'll need to go to the root of why this person found value in the far-right channel.

Edited by ShinyCottonCandy on Oct 26th 2020 at 5:56:38 AM

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#335461: Oct 26th 2020 at 2:58:53 PM

Yes, and I wouldn't be surprised if it revolves around liberal political correctness and cancel culture.

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#335462: Oct 26th 2020 at 2:59:35 PM

Four years ago, Hillary Clinton was collapsing in polls. There is no trace of the same this year, in fact Biden's lead might be minimally growing. In Congress too it's good news.

Now all that is needed to kill Trump's chances for good is an election day hurricane in the SE USA. Not really likely though.

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#335463: Oct 26th 2020 at 2:59:56 PM

The way to deprogram such people isn’t to show them evidence that they’re wrong, it’s to spend years teaching them the critical thinking skills necessary for them to work out that they’re wrong.

That’s something that generally requires a very close connection to a person to be able to do.

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#335464: Oct 26th 2020 at 3:07:30 PM

Popping in to say that Ryan George is not even remotely conservative, although he is deconstructive, which might appeal to certain mindsets.

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#335465: Oct 26th 2020 at 3:09:24 PM

So Kushner just put his foot in it, saying "President Trump's policies are the policies that can help people break out of the problems that they're complaining about, but he can't want them to be successful more than that they want to be successful." in an interview on Fox & Friends.

[down]

Dogwhistling about lazy, entitled black people.

Edited by ironballs16 on Oct 26th 2020 at 6:13:44 AM

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#335467: Oct 26th 2020 at 3:11:04 PM

[up]I think it's prime victim blaming. But, it is hard to tell.

Edited by ShinyCottonCandy on Oct 26th 2020 at 6:11:23 AM

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#335468: Oct 26th 2020 at 3:11:07 PM

For some reason he thinks that Black Americans don't want to be successful in life.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#335469: Oct 26th 2020 at 3:11:46 PM

Apparently they think the media (CNN first and foremost) will basically tell the electoral college who won.

Where to even start? I'm not exactly a US election scholar... How am I going to explain the intricacies of your election system?

Any good video suggestions?

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#335470: Oct 26th 2020 at 3:13:28 PM

[up]I know of some videos on the topic by CGP Grey, but I doubt the person will see them as anything other than "fake news".

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#335471: Oct 26th 2020 at 3:13:28 PM

I'd start by cutting him off. There's no point in wasting energy on cool-aid drinkers.

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#335472: Oct 26th 2020 at 3:14:16 PM

So Kushner just put his foot in it, saying...

We need heavier doors.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#335473: Oct 26th 2020 at 3:34:27 PM

I have to say, it is very disturbing to know someone who clearly lives in a very different world than you.

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DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#335474: Oct 26th 2020 at 3:40:52 PM

@Redmess: I dont know if it will be helpful to you, but you might try taking a look around this place. They have a free online skills workshop that focuses on depolarizing conversations.

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#335475: Oct 26th 2020 at 3:43:17 PM

"People find it very difficult to do it with family that they see physically and live with."

People find it very difficult because it's exhausting. They get flooded with disinformation every time they go on Facebook or Youtube while real news they get from you or a handful of others who see them less often. It's hard to get them to read actual facts because you can only do it when you interact with them while the alt-right can do it every time they scroll through their phone while sitting on the toilet.

By the time you've found the information disproving whatever Youtube video they've been telling you about they've already watched five more.


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