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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#335351: Oct 26th 2020 at 7:21:29 AM

[up][up][up] Really? Most Americans I talk to would be against political Dynasties. Heck, that was one of the arguments against Hillary back in 2016.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#335352: Oct 26th 2020 at 7:27:17 AM

It tends to be hypocritical and depends on which party the president is from tongue

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#335353: Oct 26th 2020 at 7:28:51 AM

But on the other hand, a potential Trump dynasty in politics would be hilarious, I don't think any of them can match up to their dad, and it would be amusing to see the attempt.

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#335354: Oct 26th 2020 at 7:32:32 AM

Political "dynasties" in the USA simply mean families where multiple members have held political office of some kind. And only four families have had more than one member become POTUS: the Adams, the Harrisons, the Roosevelts, and the Bushes.

There's probably a bunch of politicians in other countries who would count as "dynasties" by that criteria. The Trudeaus in Canada for example would count.

Edited by M84 on Oct 26th 2020 at 10:34:30 PM

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#335355: Oct 26th 2020 at 7:40:30 AM

Clinton was a presidential candidate, so that makes five, even if she didn't become president.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#335356: Oct 26th 2020 at 7:41:06 AM

No, it doesn't count if they don't actually win.

The Clintons are still a "dynasty" though since Bill was POTUS (and a governor before that), HRC was a Senator and later a Secretary of State, and Bill's uncle served on a state legislature.

Honestly, the Netherlands probably has its own fair share of politicians too who'd qualify as dynasties if there's no actual law preventing this from happening.

Edited by M84 on Oct 26th 2020 at 10:45:24 PM

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#335357: Oct 26th 2020 at 7:45:45 AM

Indeed, the most famous political dynasty in US politics, the Kennedy's, only ever had one member be president.

nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#335358: Oct 26th 2020 at 7:46:43 AM

IIRC, there are quite a few regional dynasties with power in local/statewide politics.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#335359: Oct 26th 2020 at 7:48:11 AM

These kind of "dynasties" are near inevitable if there aren't any actual laws to prevent them from happening. It's simply because interest in politics tends to run in families. If you've got one person who achieves success in politics in your family, that's probably going to lead to others in the family getting interested too.

Edited by M84 on Oct 26th 2020 at 10:49:21 PM

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#335360: Oct 26th 2020 at 7:57:41 AM

I remember an interview with Pelosi and one of two things that stuck out to me was that she got very passionate about talking about how her father, a New Jersey politician, had impressed strongly on her was a commitment to public service as a moral obligation.

The second thing was that while she was being interviewed over a meal she was casually swiping food from the reporter's plate. Wasn't even trying to hide it.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#335361: Oct 26th 2020 at 8:02:35 AM

[up]Was it something like this:

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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#335362: Oct 26th 2020 at 8:02:58 AM

The second thing was that while she was being interviewed over a meal she was casually swiping food from the reporter's plate. Wasn't even trying to hide it.
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Edited by speedyboris on Oct 26th 2020 at 8:03:58 AM

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#335364: Oct 26th 2020 at 8:17:19 AM

Clearly this makes her equivalent to the Republicans out to cut food stamps.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#335365: Oct 26th 2020 at 8:19:30 AM

There probably are people who would genuinely think that she's worse. After all, those same people think that food stamps are being abused to buy lobster or something.

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SapphireBlue Since: Jan, 2001
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#335367: Oct 26th 2020 at 8:23:23 AM

[up][up] And at least they're buying the lobster?

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#335368: Oct 26th 2020 at 8:24:34 AM

I suspect kleptofoodiacs are a lot more common than we'd like to admit. grin

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#335369: Oct 26th 2020 at 8:27:38 AM

[up][up]They think that poor people shouldn't be eating anything but sawdust. Cheap sawdust.

At least it's not as bad in the UK where the party in charge recently voted against feeding hungry children. The UK has a long history of hating children, after all.

Edited by M84 on Oct 26th 2020 at 11:30:07 PM

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PointMaid Since: Jun, 2014
#335370: Oct 26th 2020 at 8:29:48 AM

I suspect that part of the reason Kennedy III recently lost his Senatorial primary bid is that we in MA have had enough of the dynasty idea. The other reason, he wasn't giving any reason to oust Markey, who is liberal and well-liked.

Edited by PointMaid on Oct 26th 2020 at 11:30:08 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#335371: Oct 26th 2020 at 8:33:28 AM

Well,to be precise they won't fund free schools meals but the counsels will,I think in any other time no government would dream of scenario that generates such bad PR but with their super majorty and general election being 3 years ago they don't care if they're as seen as jerks because voters have the memories of goldfish apparently

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Edited by Ultimatum on Oct 26th 2020 at 3:33:51 PM

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ChrispyBacon Since: Oct, 2020
#335372: Oct 26th 2020 at 8:36:22 AM

@ M84: Now Yoda's a vegetarian which means that mostly so am I but I do appreciate a good burger.

TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#335373: Oct 26th 2020 at 8:36:43 AM

Why steal food when you can loot containers and go for perfectly fine thrown-away food instead?

There's so much food thrown away for no reason after all, imagine how many it could feed if given away to charity instead of being thrown on the garbage dump and feeding the vermin there...

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#335374: Oct 26th 2020 at 8:38:04 AM

[up][up][up] No "apparently" about or in my opinion.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#335375: Oct 26th 2020 at 8:39:15 AM

That's a way more complicated issue than it seems. Farmers can't just donate food since they literally cannot afford to do it. It takes a lot of hard fucking labor to get crops from the fields, after all. It's just cheaper to let it rot on the field than to donate it.

Edited by M84 on Oct 26th 2020 at 11:40:34 PM

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