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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Texas should not even be competitive. It’s TEXAS. It is a place where “regulation” is a dirty word and has a Humanoid Abomination for a Senator.
Disgusted, but not surprisedJumping on the "Biden doesn't need Texas to win" and "Trump winning Texas due to voting suprression doesn't mean that Republicans will pull off a win everywhere" bandwagons. Voter suppression is ultimately a state-based approach, so just because it works in Texas (again, a state that has historically voted Republican to the point that it being competitive at all is shocking) doesn't automatically mean it's a sign that America is doomed and Trump reigns supreme forever. So please cut with the doomsaying.
Perhaps more significantly, it's also almost the same as the odds (34 in 100) of Biden winning the popular vote by a landslide, here meaning double-digits. (And that's something I'm inclined to think is almost impossible - I can't imagine Trump getting less than at least 45 percent of the popular vote.)
So yeah - I've just finished making plans to vote tomorrow, but realistically Texas isn't exactly a big deal for Democrats.
Edited by nrjxll on Oct 22nd 2020 at 1:21:38 PM
Biden has the same odds of winning Texas as Trump did winning period in 2016, so it's not out of the question, but it's very much a "if the stars are aligned and the stones fall in the right sequence" scenario. That Biden even had a chance is a good sign for Democrats, but more in the long term of pushing Texas purple.
35% is about a third, it's not "when the stars align." I wouldn't count on it happening but I wouldn't be surprised either.
Anyway, Texas has a lot of blue hotspots in the cities and California has lots of red everywhere that isn't on the coast. Both of them are just really big states, they're not monoliths.
It's also worth mentioning that 538 has observed that the Biden campaign hasn't put very much money into Texas, so their strategy has never included the possibility that Texas would ever be competitive. That's probably why Biden didn't mind being honest about the oil question: their team has never regarded Texas as winnable.
Oh, and for that didn't quite catch the comment or didn't see the debate, the Hitler comment was this:
Trump defended his relationship with Kim Jong-Un by saying "We're not in a war. We have a good relationship. You know, people don't listen. Having a good relationship with leaders of other countries is a good thing. "
Biden retorted: "That's like saying we had a good relationship with Hitler before he in fact invaded Europe, the rest of Europe. C'mon!"
Edited by Wyldchyld on Oct 23rd 2020 at 12:48:36 PM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.Also just to note, the US is still kinda at war with North Korea, while no formal declaration of war has ever been issued (as neither the North or South Korean governments see the other as a separate country) the conflict is not over, no peace treaty has ever been signed, only the armistice agreement.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranThe Supreme Court was mentioned briefly in the opening question, but the discussion moved on immediately to health care.
Yes, it is a bit of a Hundred Years War situation. While there is no current war being waged, the underlying conflict has not been settled.
Also, Texas was a reliable blue state before about 1976
, so it was hardly "always" a red state. And Republican votes have been steady declining there this century, so it is certainly not that impossible for it to flip. I feel the Dems could have a shot at it if they tried and put some money in it.
And yeah, 36 percent is pretty good odds, that's 1 out of 3. It's nothing to scoff at, and Trump won on those same odds. People are making the exact same mistake with Texas here that they made with Trump in 2016.
Edited by Redmess on Oct 23rd 2020 at 2:52:16 PM
Hope shines brightest in the darkest times![]()
Texas was only a "blue" state pre-1976 because the parties were different.
I do think it's trending more Democratic in the modern sense, mind you, though it's nowhere near to the level of an actual swing state. But going back to the era of the Southern shift is a specious comparison.
Edited by nrjxll on Oct 23rd 2020 at 8:09:28 AM
Is there a word or a phrase for when you feel like the people running the government of the country you live in don't represent your ideals or community at all, not even in a superficial way? Because that's what these debates have made me feel like.
Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.I have done it, I have cast a ballot thus pledging my soul to He Who Lurks In the Darkness, Devourer of God and Unborn Babies, Apostle of Malarkey, Joe Biden.
I look forward to serving him in the deathless place where I shall surely receive my eternal reward of apotheosis.
(Edit: Who is also a known devourer of windows)
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Oct 23rd 2020 at 7:38:03 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang

Honestly, the fact that Biden has a similar chance to win Texas as Trump had to win the 2016 election is already a troubling sign for the GOP. I don't think anyone should be expecting Biden to win it, but as part of a broader trend it paints an ugly picture for Trump's chances.