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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#333876: Oct 15th 2020 at 11:54:03 AM

American courts are paving the way for COVID-19 and are in the process of devastating public health. Just a reminder that Trump and Evil Turtle aren't the only threat to the US public and that abortion is only one issue among many.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#333878: Oct 15th 2020 at 12:36:48 PM

[up][up][up] Seems like a sure bet.

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#333879: Oct 15th 2020 at 1:56:24 PM

So McConnell is promising not to put even a negotiated COVID package between the White House and House to a vote in the Senate.

During an event in Kentucky, Mc Connell was asked whether he believed a compromise was possible in the realm between $1.8 trillion and $2.2 trillion, the price tags under consideration.

"I don't think so… That's where the administration's willing to go," he said. "My members think what we laid out, a half a trillion dollars, highly targeted, is the best way to go. So that's what I'm gonna put on the floor. "

Mc Connell referred to the ongoing negotiations between Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on a stimulus package. "That's not what I'm gonna put on the floor," he said.

Really, really hope this leads to his losing come election day.

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Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#333880: Oct 15th 2020 at 2:03:19 PM

Even if he wins, if the Senate goes Blue he's out of hard power.

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TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#333881: Oct 15th 2020 at 2:06:08 PM

Unless the filibuster is killed, Mitch will crater the economy just to spite the Dems.

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#333882: Oct 15th 2020 at 2:06:57 PM

[up][up]Inversely, if McGrath (?) wins, if Dems don't take the Senate, her hands are tied AFAIK.

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Oct 15th 2020 at 5:07:12 AM

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Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#333883: Oct 15th 2020 at 2:22:27 PM

Meanwhile, has anyone figured out what the strat behind the GOP's fake drop boxes was? Was it just ballot harvesting or is it so they have "missing" ballots they can find after the election to cause doubt?

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#333884: Oct 15th 2020 at 2:26:28 PM

Inversely, if Mc Grath (?) wins, if Dems don't take the Senate, her hands are tied AFAIK.

Depends if the new Senate Majority Leader is less of a ideological lunatic.

But I'll speak for Kentucky here, in no way is there any universe where Mc Grath wins and the Democrats don't take the Senate.

She's the longest shot of this election.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#333885: Oct 15th 2020 at 2:28:17 PM

Meanwhile, has anyone figured out what the strat behind the GOP's fake drop boxes was? Was it just ballot harvesting or is it so they have "missing" ballots they can find after the election to cause doubt?

To indulge in my defense of Conspiracy Theorist ideas because there's actually some conspiracies out there, my belief is they're attempting to create an argument that Democrats threw out Republican mail-in votes to declare the election illegitimate and take it to the Supreme Court.

Alternatively, they have an idea to get rid of mail in ballots en masse to try to win state ballots for lesser candidates but not Trump ala Judges.

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DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#333886: Oct 15th 2020 at 2:33:22 PM

It's the traditional propaganda technique of "muddying the waters", making it difficult for low engagement voters to remember which boxes were legit and which weren't. That creates an opening afterward to declare boxes in Democratic districts (in Republican states) illegitimate.

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#333887: Oct 15th 2020 at 2:43:45 PM

American courts are paving the way for COVID-19 and are in the process of devastating public health. Just a reminder that Trump and Evil Turtle aren't the only threat to the US public and that abortion is only one issue among many.

Paywall.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#333888: Oct 15th 2020 at 2:45:28 PM

The article was saying that conservative and Trump appointed judiciaries are doing away with decades of established precedence that allow state (and maybe smaller) governments to effectively handle pandemic response, in what is obviously in the name of present day Republican partisanship.

Edited by LSBK on Oct 15th 2020 at 4:46:02 AM

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#333889: Oct 15th 2020 at 3:08:16 PM

Biden is hosting a town hall in two hours in lieu of the debate with ABC. Trump is having a last minute dueling town hall on NBC at the same time.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#333890: Oct 15th 2020 at 3:13:54 PM

The Republicans stated they have no plan ("Herd Immunity") and now they are actively interfering.

They're not just evil...they're fucking STUPID.

It's unbelievable.

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nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#333891: Oct 15th 2020 at 3:26:40 PM

Final Q3 fundraising numbers are in, and the figures are staggering. Looks like the late surge in donations went to a lot of Senate candidates. Axios

Editing for clarity: These are all Democratic candidates, everyone in a competitive race except Sara Gideon and Doug Jones.

  • Jaime Harrison (SC): $57M
  • Mark Kelly (AZ): $38M
  • Amy McGrath (KY): $36M
  • Theresa Greenfield (IA): $28M
  • Cal Cunningham (NC): $28M
  • Steve Bullock (MT): $26M
  • John Hickenlooper (CO): $22M
  • Jon Ossoff (GA): $21M
  • Gary Peters (MI): $14M
  • MJ Hegar (TX): $13M
  • Barbara Bollier (KS): $13M
  • Raphael Warnock (GA): $12M
  • Al Gross (AK): $9M

Edited by nova92 on Oct 15th 2020 at 4:03:41 AM

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#333892: Oct 15th 2020 at 3:47:14 PM

Could you insert the party affiliation into that list?

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#333893: Oct 15th 2020 at 3:53:44 PM

They’re all democrats.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#333894: Oct 15th 2020 at 3:55:55 PM

I'm glad people are realizing the importance of throwing their support towards downballot races as opposed to just the presidential one.

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#333895: Oct 15th 2020 at 3:56:00 PM

Depends if the new Senate Majority Leader is less of a ideological lunatic.

I've already criticized this sentiment before but it's worth repeating. Mcconnel could not do any of what he wants if his party wasn't behind it. If he gets voted out of office but the Republicans control the Senate then they will simply replace him with someone who will behave the same way.

Why? Because nothing he does is lunacy. Mc Connel understands that the point of power is efficacy, not norms, and certainly not pointless displays of principle that achieve nothing. He does what he does because letting Democrats get what they want does absolutely nothing to help the Republicans.

It makes perfect sense to ruthlessly push for partisan advantage, and that Democrats haven't done it in the past is why they've done poorly.

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A procrastination in of itself
#333896: Oct 15th 2020 at 4:01:10 PM

Yeah the only way you get a more compromising Republican leader in the senate is if they loose an absurd amount of seats. If Dems somehow walk away with 57 seats (including Kentucky) then you could see maybe Romney as minority leader and compromise start to be talked about, or the remaining Republican senators could double-down and pick the likes of Tom “no quarter” Cotton.

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nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#333897: Oct 15th 2020 at 4:06:15 PM

I could see a Senate Minority/Majority Leader that's as ideologically fanatic as McConnell but less good at destroying the rules/norms. Leading is different from going along with whatever Mitch is doing. Do I think that's at all likely? Not one bit.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#333898: Oct 15th 2020 at 4:10:06 PM

I think people underestimate how much Mc Connell pushed things through on his own. Mind you, they don't seem to understand how party bosses work or the level of blackmail, economic abuse, or favor trading goes on behind the scenes. Its why he owns Kentucky despite being a Senator.

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nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#333899: Oct 15th 2020 at 4:12:46 PM

One thing I keep on thinking as I look at the Senate, is that Democrats are running great candidates and narrowing the score in so many states where people thought they wouldn't stand a chance. A slight tilt in their favor in the final weeks would be the difference between a 50-51 seat Senate majority and a 57-seat majority and its nerve-wracking. Like there are 5-6 races where Democrats could do better than they have in decades and fall just short.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#333900: Oct 15th 2020 at 4:17:34 PM

If Texas goes, I'll have to buy Beto a beer.

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