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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I did see articles in the past suggesting that Republican Senators will claim that they knew Trump was racist, incompetent etc. all along if he loses. In fact, I am pretty sure I linked them here from this Twitter account
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Obama's election was supposed to be the GOP's wake-up call, but instead the party doubled down on racism and iconoclasm. It has been speculated by some that we'll need to deal it a series of catastrophic defeats before it'll deal seriously with its own issues. One election, or even two, won't be enough.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I did see articles in the past suggesting that Republican Senators will claim that they knew Trump was racist, incompetent etc. all along if he loses. In fact, I am pretty sure I linked them here from this Twitter account.
At which point they would promptly be primaried by enraged cultists.
I don't see this happening.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Oct 12th 2020 at 10:41:39 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang![]()
One election losing by an electoral landslide would be enough to get their attention. Best case scenario this year, Biden wins by an electoral landslide, and most (if not all) Senate Republicans going for re-election this year lose. A loss on that level would be near impossible for the Republican Party to come back from, it'd mean they lost so many voters that they're no longer viable on the national stage.
Edited by ScubaWolf on Oct 12th 2020 at 1:43:47 PM
"In a move surprising absolutely no one"Their response to this has been to cheat even more openly and pack the courts.
This is the heart of the matter, they are fundamentally unwilling to reform themselves and thus the only path forward that is palatable to Republican idealogy is setting up eternal minority rule.
Thankfully all available evidence suggests that Biden is going to crush Trump and we may have an opportunity to implement electoral reform and shut down their anti-democratic efforts.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Oct 12th 2020 at 11:00:57 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangSenator Kennedy has called the Kavanaugh hearings, "A freak show like the Star Wars cantina." Also that he's been called a white imperialist, colonialist, and racist.
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Yeah.
Okay. This is going to go well.
Thankfully all available evidence suggests that Biden is going to crush Trump and we may have an opportunity to implement electoral reform and shut down their anti-democratic efforts.
At the heart of the matter, a lot of people assume that Republicans aren't racist for the sake of racism but to benefit themselves.
Frederick Douglass said that this was one of the biggest problems he had trying to convey how nightmarish slavery was. To most people, they thought it was because the slave owners wanted free labor and to make money.
He said, roughly, "They would impoverish themselves and kill themselves to preserve slavery. It was the point."
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Oct 12th 2020 at 11:03:32 AM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.Sure, some will, the rubes who were psychologically manipulated by targeted ads designed to convert their implicit racism and authoritarianism into becoming explicit. But don't forget the force that's ultimately driving movement conservatism—financial interests whose way of life depends absolutely on dominating the federal government. They won't "reform" because they can't reform. And as long as they make large sums of money available, they will find candidates willing to toe their line. They will just try to pick someone smarter next time.
That's the thing to worry about. It may take them another eight years to do it, but they will come back stronger and better organized. They have no choice.
I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.I suspect rather than the Republican Party reforming in the event of a landslide Biden win, we might see a bit of a free for all, as the Lincoln project start their own party and run candidates, as the Libertarians get more aggressive about trying to pull away Republicans and maybe even as the Republican leadership try to block Trump out and cause him to start his own party.
I’ve spent a lot of time look at the fall of both the Federalists and the Whigs, and a repeat of either requires certain conditions. The Federalists fell because they kept loosing over a long period of time, while the Whigs collapsed because a number of third-parties were already growing and they got pulled in multiple directions and were shattered.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranThis. If Trump loses, that won't really be enough to determine the course of the GOP going forward. What will decide the GOP's direction going forward will be the outcome of the 2022 and 2024 Republican Primary elections for House, Senate, and President. Those will be the points at which Republican voters meet and decide what their party identity will be in a post-Trump world.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 12th 2020 at 12:14:38 PM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Yeah a big thing will be come 2022, do they nominate moderate Republicans in Pennsylvania and North Carolina? Does Murkowski get primaries again? If Grassley retires do they run Steve King for his seat? Do they primary Tim Scott?
2024 will be the big one, especially if one of the Trump family runs for the nomination (which they could even do from prison).
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranI don't expect the Trump clan to retain any political relevance after Donald's not the president anymore.
Junior is a simpering suck up, Kushner is a lump of moldy drywall, Ivanka is a future Fox hostess at best, and none of the others are even on the radar. None of them have the derangement that passes for Donald's charisma, and the Trump name is going to be political poison to anyone outside of whatever remains of his cult once he's out of power.
The split after corruption is kinda what broke the two party system my country had. I wonder if it may happen for the U.S.
Good news: The libertarians did not rise.
Bad news: every option still sucks.
Worse news: one of the groups that rose was strictly super ultra rabidly evangelical and they had a sieable amount of votes.
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes

If Trump loses spectacularly, I wonder how it will affect the Republican party...they dropped the veil more than one with him in the lead and said the quiet part out loud.
Will it be back to euphemisms and winks and nods from them? Pence and his VP performance suggest so.
We would be entering unknown territory, normally a party would take stock of its current platform and change it to appeal to more people. But the Republicans are not a normal party, they're a hive of irrational fanatics who are devoted to identitarian bigotry.
I suspect they would double down and simply choose another Trump. That could have devastating strategic consequences for them in the long run.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang