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NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#332826: Oct 8th 2020 at 10:01:18 PM

@ What Covid does to the mind: I saw a report a while back saying COVID causes aggression, confusion, delirium, it causes pain, loss of taste and smell, impaired thinking.

So...

...this sounds a lot like the lead in to the backstory of NieR. Like, all that was missing was eyes turning red—-aww shit.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#332827: Oct 8th 2020 at 10:18:59 PM

[up] Do those effects still linger?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
FinestArts Vampire Mouse of Mars from The North Lands Since: Apr, 2020 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Vampire Mouse of Mars
#332828: Oct 8th 2020 at 10:20:47 PM

The description for Covid sounds like my go to kill method in Plague Inc Evolved. All that's missing is the multiple organ failure.

Edited by FinestArts on Oct 8th 2020 at 1:20:59 PM

Andygal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
#332831: Oct 8th 2020 at 11:00:36 PM

Trumpy is also on a lot of drugs, including a steroid known to cause psychiatric side effects.

So yeah, dude is high as balls. I hear that drug has a hell of a crash once you stop taking it though.

Strap yourselves in boys, girls, and not applicables.

Edited by Andygal on Oct 8th 2020 at 11:02:39 AM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#332832: Oct 8th 2020 at 11:06:18 PM

Pelosi has discussed invoking the 25th Amendment.

Some suggest she's just hoping Trump will go nuts some more because of it.

https://www.masslive.com/politics/2020/10/house-speaker-nancy-pelosi-raises-25th-amendment-saying-president-trump-in-altered-state.html?outputType=amp

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Oct 8th 2020 at 11:07:39 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#332833: Oct 8th 2020 at 11:06:40 PM

Coughing Trump insists he's feeling great during a Fox interview.

He is gonna deny COVID to the grave it seems. Even on live TV, he will downplay COVID to look strong.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#332834: Oct 8th 2020 at 11:17:33 PM

Some suggest she's just hoping Trump will go nuts some more because of it.

Who wouldn't, honestly.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#332835: Oct 8th 2020 at 11:21:57 PM

George W. Bush who invoked it twice during his surgeries because he didn't think he'd never get it back from Cheney like a lunatic.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#332836: Oct 8th 2020 at 11:24:47 PM

I'm curious as to whether there will be a push to make any of the other island territories (American Samoa, US Virgin Islands, Northern Mariana Islands, Guam) states.

Well, at least part of the push would have to come from those islands. From what I know, the current sentiment in Guam is toward greater autonomy, not statehood (though not independence either, because Guam is dependent on federal dollars - also, I don't think most American Presidents would be willing to let Guam go).

singularityshot Since: Dec, 2012
#332837: Oct 8th 2020 at 11:25:47 PM

Naturally, Republicans are up in arms - which is stupid, because it's been stated that this commission is unlikely to have any conclusions or recommendations before the election. In fact, it's more likely to have an impact on the next administration, whomever that turns out to be.

So if the Republicans stopped screaming bloody murder and took a breath, they could parley this into an attack on Biden with all the associated conspiracy theories about his alleged unfitness for offline - and that this commission is the Democrats tacitly acknowledging that "fact".

Codafett Knows-Many-Things Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for you *wink*
Knows-Many-Things
#332838: Oct 8th 2020 at 11:57:08 PM

I question the push to get Trump out of office so close to the election. It just makes the left look desperate.

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#332839: Oct 8th 2020 at 11:59:54 PM

[up]We want to throw a monkey-wrench in things to prevent ACB from getting on the Court. Yeah, we're pretty desperate to keep that locked down.

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#332840: Oct 9th 2020 at 12:01:10 AM

Because it's only a temporary removal from office and to keep someone incapable of performing their duties from controlling the world's largest nuclear arsenal?

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#332841: Oct 9th 2020 at 12:09:35 AM

[up] Isn't there like security?

"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#332842: Oct 9th 2020 at 12:10:58 AM

By convention, yes. Either way, you do not want someone incapacitated from having such powers.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#332843: Oct 9th 2020 at 12:11:26 AM

I question the push to get Trump out of office so close to the election. It just makes the left look desperate.

I suppose because when someone is unfit for office because they're drugged out of their mind, they shouldn't be in charge of the world's most powerful military and with unimaginable power?

This shouldn't be a political move. It's only one because the Republicans have utterly abrogated their responsibilities.

Isn't there like security?

Yes, which is designed to guarantee the President can fire the nukes and not be interfered with.

The military removed Nixon's authority to do it during impeachment but they're not supposed to.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Oct 9th 2020 at 12:13:59 PM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Ayasugi Since: Oct, 2010
#332844: Oct 9th 2020 at 12:12:51 AM

[up][up][up][up] Or hell, just being a dangerous source of misinformation several degrees worse than his usual thanks to his drugged-up ramblings and being a literal plague spreader thanks to his total denial of his condition. The fact is that there's a statistically-significant chance Trump will become incapacitated due to covid and the government should be prepared to deal with that. It's not a coup, it's not denying reality in order to coddle the president's strongman image.

Edited by Ayasugi on Oct 9th 2020 at 3:13:21 PM

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#332845: Oct 9th 2020 at 12:13:09 AM

Also, this is not "remove Trump from the presidency", it's "promote Pence to Acting President whilst Trump is sick and being treated", which should not be a political position.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#332846: Oct 9th 2020 at 12:14:25 AM

Trump would demand Pence's head if he accepted it.

Because he is the enemy of democracy.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#332847: Oct 9th 2020 at 12:18:48 AM

Well, at least part of the push would have to come from those islands. From what I know, the current sentiment in Guam is toward greater autonomy, not statehood (though not independence either, because Guam is dependent on federal dollars - also, I don't think most American Presidents would be willing to let Guam go).

Oops, sorry, didn't mean to suggest there should be unilateral action by the mainland. Was just wondering if there might be a change in the status quo. It's interesting that Guam is for more autonomy over statehood because AFAIK, there's a segment of Puerto Rico that feels the same way.


Raleigh News & Observer: Biden backs Lumbee tribe's push for federal recognition

Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden will back full federal recognition for the Lumbee tribe, the largest in North Carolina, his campaign said Thursday.

...

"Six decades ago, Congress recognized the Lumbee Tribe but denied it the benefits that all other federally recognized tribes receive," said a statement from the campaign. "It is past time for the federal government to rectify this injustice and fully recognize the Lumbee tribe, providing it with the critical resources it needs to prosper."

...

But while North Carolina has long recognized the tribe, the federal government has denied the Lumbee that status since 1956, when Congress acted to deny members that full legal status and corresponding access to benefits.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#332848: Oct 9th 2020 at 12:29:08 AM

Huh, I remember first hearing about the Lumbee tribe from watching several people argue over whether one of them was a "fake poser Indian" on social media and one of the others (who admittedly was calling themselves an anti-SJW) claimed that the Lumbee tribe were all liars because they lacked formal recognition.

This was from before I was made aware of how blood quantum laws were deliberately exclusionary in nature and used to rob culturally recognized Native Americans of valid self-identification. Glad to hear of it, and I hope that one person from years ago feels some peace knowing that people will now have to respect their identity.

Edited by AlleyOop on Oct 9th 2020 at 3:31:44 PM

singularityshot Since: Dec, 2012
#332849: Oct 9th 2020 at 12:37:41 AM

Sorry, just had to quote this paragraph from the Guardian article about the plot to kidnap Governor Whitmer.

The next day they (the militia group) agreed to conduct a final training exercise in late October - an exercise which now will not take place.

Well no shit it's not going to be taking place. Is there a reason the reporter has to add that extra quantifier? Like do they imagine a right wing nut job who was otherwise unaffiliated to the plot but in reading this article from The Guardian finds out about this training exercise, only upon arrival finds out it was cancelled and so he decides to sue the Guardian for false advertising?

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#332850: Oct 9th 2020 at 12:40:11 AM

UK media is very libel-happy and doesn't have the same free speech and freedom of press laws as the US. Thus the only way to get away with such statements is if they're unambiguously true. So hedging their bets is actually vital.


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