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#332751: Oct 8th 2020 at 3:05:09 PM

It is weird, I did not expect Michigan of all places to pull that off. I expected it from like. Florida, or Texas, maybe even California as it has deeply angry deep red pockets.

Then again I frankly know nothing about Michigan.

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#332752: Oct 8th 2020 at 3:08:46 PM

Was that the "matter of national importance" the FBI said they'd be announcing earlier this week?

No, that was something around the trial of two ISIS guys I believe.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
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#332753: Oct 8th 2020 at 3:09:14 PM

Michigan has a history of anti government crap and the governor rightly standing by anti COVID-19 measures has made the militias flip their shit.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#332754: Oct 8th 2020 at 3:11:23 PM

It's good that these militias have been rolled up, but how many more are still out there? I hope the FBI cracks down on the lot of them soon.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#332755: Oct 8th 2020 at 3:11:58 PM

[up][up][up]Yup.

To Summarize: A bunch of UK nationals were members of ISIS, and the US wanted to put them on trial. UK courts wouldn't go for it without the death penalty being off the table. Once the talks were completed, extradition is moving forward.

Likely won't have any impact on the election or even news cycle, ISIS is out of the public eye right now.

Edited by Rationalinsanity on Oct 8th 2020 at 7:14:51 AM

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#332756: Oct 8th 2020 at 3:13:25 PM

I think Biden needs to bite the bullet and crack down hard on militia groups once he is in office. These groups are being recruited as terrorist cells by Qanon and the alt-right, and they are becoming increasingly dangerous.

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#332757: Oct 8th 2020 at 3:14:45 PM

Have they actually rolled the entire militia up? My understanding is it’s less than a dozen people being charged, which indicates that a lot of the militia’s members are still able to operate, it’s only the sub-group around this specific plot that have been arrested.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#332758: Oct 8th 2020 at 3:15:52 PM

How many people are in this group?

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#332759: Oct 8th 2020 at 3:16:59 PM

I feel like the FBI probably stops threats like this fairly regularly,so this news doesn't come as much of a shock to me

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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#332760: Oct 8th 2020 at 3:19:31 PM

Michigan Republicans have actually come out with a pretty solid statement, at least from what I’m seeing on Reddit.

"A threat against our Governor is a threat against us all," Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey, R-Clarklake, tweeted Wednesday afternoon. "We condemn those who plotted against her and our government. They are not patriots. There is no honor in their actions. They are criminals and traitors, and they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."

Best I can tell it’s 13 people being charged, including 7 members of a specific militia, but the fact that they specific they’re members indicates that there’s more to the group than just the 7 arrested.

So it’s 6 main conspirators who they tried to help help from 7 militia guys.

Edited by Silasw on Oct 8th 2020 at 10:21:53 AM

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#332761: Oct 8th 2020 at 3:22:29 PM

They're terrorists, plain and simple.

Many groups in the anti-government movement call themselves militias, even if definitions vary widely. Although the Second Amendment guarantees the right to bear arms and mentions a “well regulated militia,” all 50 states have some manner of prohibition against private paramilitary groups.

S the legality of those militia groups is in question as well. I suspect it is increasingly a cover for home-grown terrorism, especially now that Qanon gives them something to point their guns at.

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#332762: Oct 8th 2020 at 3:22:47 PM

The words would definitely be admirable, if I had any reason to believe the speaker believed them.

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singularityshot Since: Dec, 2012
#332763: Oct 8th 2020 at 3:25:51 PM

The interesting thing is that whilst there apparently is no federal definition of "Domestic Terrorism" or similar legal term of art, the FBI apparently did use resources and techniques from their anti-terrorism division.

So whilst the Justice Department might be sitting on their hands with regards to right-wing extremism the FBI is finding ways to use the tools they have effectively.

There is a question as to whether those tools are appropriate for domestic use in general but it does seem for this specific case they were.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#332764: Oct 8th 2020 at 3:26:45 PM

[up][up] Well, at least he isn't egging them on.

Election administrators throughout the United States are taking steps to prepare, with some directing staff to undergo training sessions on extremist group tactics and even preparing poll workers for the possibility of someone showing up armed.

If you are still planning to go vote in person, you have this to look forward to, it seems. It's going to be one hell of an election.

Edited by Redmess on Oct 8th 2020 at 12:26:58 PM

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Imca (Veteran)
#332765: Oct 8th 2020 at 3:29:17 PM

They're terrorists, plain and simple.

Yes, but traitor is also acceptable here, because to a lot of conservatives a traitor is worse then a terrorist.... you know the whole loyalty and patriotism thing.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#332766: Oct 8th 2020 at 3:31:01 PM

These people wanted no less than to topple the government and watch the country burn. They are definitely traitors to their government.

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Imca (Veteran)
#332767: Oct 8th 2020 at 3:37:13 PM

Indeed they are, which is what the statement says... and also calls for them to face the death penalty.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#332768: Oct 8th 2020 at 4:01:13 PM

Collins is urging voters in Maine to split the ticket.

"Collins began airing an ad this week that urges voters to vote for her “no matter who you’re voting for for president.""

The article also noted that Mc Sally is belatedly trying to avoid being linked to Trump despite being full MAGA this entire cycle.

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#332769: Oct 8th 2020 at 4:03:49 PM

If Collins wanted that, she should have voted to impeach.

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#332770: Oct 8th 2020 at 4:11:43 PM

You had your chance to be Murkowski, Collins. You blew it.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#332773: Oct 8th 2020 at 4:23:02 PM

My immediate concern is Kamala Harris because if he's got corvid,who else at the debate now has it?

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astrokitty Happiness is a cup of tea from Somewhere Out There Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Happiness is a cup of tea
#332774: Oct 8th 2020 at 4:26:28 PM

...Apple fritter. Considering how flimsy that plexiglass was, I really hope Harris didn't get infected with it.

Edited by astrokitty on Oct 8th 2020 at 7:26:41 AM

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