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Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#332701: Oct 8th 2020 at 8:19:52 AM

I doubt Barr or anyone else will try though; the look alone would be disastrous to Trump, and definitively kill his Presidency.

Also Biden, Obama and Hillary all have Secret Service protection, so Barr also has to weigh the risk of the Secret Service simply saying no to any warrant he tries to issue.

That and Pelosi might send the House Sergeant at Arms to arrest Barr if he tried such a move. Hell she could back him up with the Capitol Police or theoretically even get the democrat governor of Virginia to back him up with the Virginia National Guard if it came to it.

Trump isn’t going to win if things turn violent, which provides a strong incentive for his allies to not turn things violent.

Edited by Silasw on Oct 8th 2020 at 3:22:26 PM

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#332702: Oct 8th 2020 at 8:25:48 AM

I don't think the Secret Service would have a say in that. If it was an official warrant, they'd have to stand down.

But Barr would be insane to do that, especially so short before an election. If Biden wins, and he very likely will, that would put Barr in a whole world of hurt, and he obviously would rather not end his career so soon.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#332703: Oct 8th 2020 at 8:28:16 AM

Barr's Career is *already* shot to hell if Biden wins he's GOING to be out of a Job in January.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#332704: Oct 8th 2020 at 8:30:38 AM

[up]

It's more whether he'll be able to get employed elsewhere after Trump, or if he'll do something so toxic even Rupert Murdoch wouldn't be willing to stick his neck out on it. Or possibly have charges laid against him.

Edited by ironballs16 on Oct 8th 2020 at 11:32:40 AM

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#332705: Oct 8th 2020 at 8:31:36 AM

Ah....I was wondering when we'd get to the "fascist dictator tries to arrest his political rivals" stage.

Edited by nightwyrm_zero on Oct 8th 2020 at 8:32:22 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#332706: Oct 8th 2020 at 8:33:30 AM

And of course it's over Twitter.

Disgusted, but not surprised
nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#332707: Oct 8th 2020 at 8:41:47 AM

The Detroit News: Feds say they thwarted militia plot to kidnap Whitmer

The FBI thwarted what they described as a plot to violently overthrow the government and kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and federal prosecutors are expected to discuss the alleged conspiracy later Thursday.

Is it just me or does Gov. Whitmer seem to be the target of an abnormal amount of virulent hatred?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#332708: Oct 8th 2020 at 8:43:16 AM

She's an outspoken woman.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Nerevarine Since: Mar, 2016
#332709: Oct 8th 2020 at 8:47:23 AM

Also iirc she was one of the first governors to do a state wide lockdown which upset the "masks are tyranny" crowd.

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#332710: Oct 8th 2020 at 8:50:27 AM

So first Michigan arrests Vote Intimidating Republicans, then Michigan gets the FBI to help them arrest a literal armed militia who was trying to overthrow and kill the Michigan Government?

If I lived in Michigan right now, I'd be terrified that the state for the next Couple of years is gonna be a hotbed of Right-Wing Terrorism.

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#332711: Oct 8th 2020 at 8:51:47 AM

And as ever it's the right who constantly frets about terrorist attacks and attempts at overthrowing the government.

Why do we call it the right wing and not the projection wing?

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#332712: Oct 8th 2020 at 8:53:09 AM

[up] Because their minds went right over the cliff.

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DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#332713: Oct 8th 2020 at 9:02:32 AM

Biden's pulling out of the debate set for Oct. 15th, and will instead hold a Town Hall meeting.

I think this is a mistake on Biden's part; he should've taken the Debate just to make Trump look bad for not doing it.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#332714: Oct 8th 2020 at 9:03:37 AM

So how are Masks are tyranny crowd reacting to Trump being infected with COVID?

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#332715: Oct 8th 2020 at 9:04:34 AM

The debate commission probably would have just canceled it when they were sure Trump wasn't going to go. At least this way Biden leaves on his own terms.

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#332716: Oct 8th 2020 at 9:04:44 AM

[up][up][up]He's also asking the Town Hall to be moved to the 22nd, not cancelling altogether.

Edited by 3of4 on Oct 8th 2020 at 6:04:55 PM

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#332717: Oct 8th 2020 at 9:11:11 AM

A retired judge of the German Constitutional Court has written an op-ed criticizing the practices of the US Supreme Court (Her Wikipedia biography) regarding:

  • The tendency of the court to vote in terms of partisan blocs of judges appointed by Republicans vs judges appointed by Democrats.
  • The lack of deliberation and discussion, which instead takes form of an almost anonymous vote.
  • The way the majority opinions come to exist, which invites horse-trading and strategic voting to get your name onto the decision.
  • The staff of the SCOTUS judges gets far more money from law firms than their actual salary.
  • It is not even necessary for a judge to partake to deliberations before casting their vote.
  • There is no opportunity for judges to ask questions to parties, and thus oral arguments see judges interrupting each other.
  • The fact that judges serve for life encourages partisan behaviour not only in the Senate but also of judges, as the partisan equilibria don't shift quickly.
  • It also makes the jurisprudence of the court unduly dependent on chance events such as the death of individual judges and even incompetent judges can still stay on.
  • A "majority decision" can occur even if the judges carrying it have totally divergent arguments for getting to it (n.b not only does this happen, there even have been recent SCOTUS cases about how a SCOTUS judgment has to be interpreted when the arguments aren't coherent).
  • In part SCOTUS also overturns its earlier rulings far more frequently than some comparable non-American courts, despite stare decisis.

A Google Translated version is here and is fairly good (albeit with some typical Google Translate screwups; in the German version Trump is paying respects to Ginsburg, not the other way around as Google Translate thinks. Also, the correct statement is "Not only politologists view the idea of an arms-length discussion as an old wives' tale"). She is also quite critical of Roe vs. Wade, using it as an example of one-sided decision, and of Antonin Scalia which she calls the most opinionated, least capable of listening and dialogue judge of a supreme court she has ever encountered.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#332718: Oct 8th 2020 at 9:17:11 AM

I don't see how Biden not holding the debate is a mistake when everyone always says the debates don't matter anyway.

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RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#332719: Oct 8th 2020 at 9:21:02 AM

Oh, and Pompeo came out with this almost immediately after the Utah senator declared democracy to be a bad thing:

The United States is committed to supporting free and fair elections, including the upcoming elections across Africa. We will not hesitate to consider consequences – including visa restrictions – for those who undermine democracy.

devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#332720: Oct 8th 2020 at 9:33:32 AM

Trump was the first to back out. There's no reason for Biden to not back out either.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#332721: Oct 8th 2020 at 9:42:17 AM

Trump is now trying to blame Gold Star families, who met with him at the White House last month, for the COVID cluster sweeping through Republican ranks. Despite the timelines not matching up.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/08/politics/trump-gold-star-families/index.html

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#332722: Oct 8th 2020 at 9:46:13 AM

[up] All I get from this is "Trump was infected when he met those Gold Star families already."

We all know Trump speaks bizarro, so anything he says, the opposite is the truth.

Assuming this is the case, that is.

Edited by TitanJump on Oct 8th 2020 at 6:46:55 PM

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#332723: Oct 8th 2020 at 9:48:46 AM

He wasn't infected a month ago. He was infected at the Rose Garden superspreader event.

He's just a moron with a pathological inability to admit fault in himself.

Edited by RedSavant on Oct 8th 2020 at 12:49:05 PM

It's been fun.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#332724: Oct 8th 2020 at 9:50:21 AM

There seems to also be some doubt about whether he even got tested for that Rose Garden event. Hence why the White House refuses to disclose when Trump was last tested negative.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#332725: Oct 8th 2020 at 9:52:26 AM

So if anything, he could have infected Gold Star Families.

Edited by sgamer82 on Oct 8th 2020 at 10:01:32 AM


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