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SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#332676: Oct 8th 2020 at 6:36:49 AM

I mean, if it means avoiding another shitty debate, I wouldn’t mind. Kills two birds with one stone.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#332677: Oct 8th 2020 at 6:42:04 AM

Democracy isn't the objective; liberty, peace, and prospefity are. We want the human condition to flourish. Rank democracy can thwart that.

How do you even get prospefity?

[down]without autocorrect kicking in?

Edited by megaeliz on Oct 8th 2020 at 9:46:41 AM

nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#332678: Oct 8th 2020 at 6:45:12 AM

F is right below R on the keyboard.

TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#332679: Oct 8th 2020 at 6:45:22 AM

GOP doesn't want a democracy or even an republic.

They want an "idiocy".

And judging from how their brains has been melting down from old age among other things, are already halfway there within their own circles.

Reflextion from a post-sanity world (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
#332680: Oct 8th 2020 at 6:49:56 AM

"Idiocy" is an apt choice of words, because the past four years have certainly demonstrated just how many people are unfit to participate in the democratic process

Edited by Reflextion on Oct 8th 2020 at 9:50:18 AM

Someone did tell me life was going to be this way.
TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
(•̀⤙•́)
#332681: Oct 8th 2020 at 6:52:06 AM

The GOP wants to consolidate power into the hands of the wealthy, disenfranchise women and minorities, and eliminate taxes for themselves. They don't care overmuch about the mechanism through which that occurs; they'll support whatever they have to in order to arrive at that goal.

But since democracy is fundamentally irreconcilable with the consolidation of power into fewer hands, they're not fans. They'll pay it lip service when they need to, but the idea of One Person = One Vote stands in stark opposition to everything they're about.

The guy from Innuendo Studios put this best, I think: they want wealth to be the deciding factor in who controls the United States. They want people voting with their dollar, because then people with more dollars get more votes.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 8th 2020 at 6:55:08 AM

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#332682: Oct 8th 2020 at 6:54:32 AM

I think you mean idiocracy, which has been suggested by some commentators already.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#332683: Oct 8th 2020 at 6:55:54 AM

Man, Beelzebub is slipping if he shed a bit of his facade and let one of his true constituent parts fly free in public.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#332684: Oct 8th 2020 at 7:05:01 AM

[up][up] No , "idiocy" is what I meant.

("Idio-" = "Indicating peculiarity, isolation or that which pertains to an individual person or thing")

And what are they trying to turn America into?

The "States of Trump".

And considering his motto is "I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY AT ALL!", then there is not a hint of governance of sort in it, not making it adding a "-cracy" in the slightest.

Edited by TitanJump on Oct 8th 2020 at 4:09:20 PM

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#332685: Oct 8th 2020 at 7:06:05 AM

YOOOOOOOOO I WAS NOT THE ONLY ONE TO THINK UP THAT JOKE.

CHECK OUT THE OTHER WIKI

In theological sources, predominantly Christian, Beelzebub is another name for Satan. He is known in demonology as one of the seven princes of Hell. The Dictionnaire Infernal describes Beelzebub as a being capable of flying, known as the "Lord of the Flyers", or the "Lord of the Flies", or "Mike Pence".

Edited by Aszur on Oct 8th 2020 at 8:08:02 PM

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#332686: Oct 8th 2020 at 7:10:33 AM

I think you mean idiocracy, which has been suggested by some commentators already.

Which was already the plot of a movie some years ago - except the idiots in said movie were still smarter than the Trumpets because the minute a more intelligent and educated person showed up, they put them in charge of fixing stuff.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Oct 8th 2020 at 4:10:47 PM

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#332687: Oct 8th 2020 at 7:11:47 AM

[up][up]Reminds me of the time How Did This Get Made? asked people to briefly change Stellan Skarsgård's name to "Stellar Skateboard" when they noticed that's what his name auto corrected to.

Edited by sgamer82 on Oct 8th 2020 at 7:12:00 AM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#332688: Oct 8th 2020 at 7:32:03 AM

"Trump has Jewish family members, and I have a black friend. He's sitting on my head right now."

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#332689: Oct 8th 2020 at 7:34:14 AM

Fly: "Hey, leave me out of this."

Disgusted, but not surprised
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#332690: Oct 8th 2020 at 7:43:22 AM

He's lucky no one tried to swat the fly

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#332691: Oct 8th 2020 at 7:48:45 AM

Saw some news that Trump is demanding his AG, William Barr, to have Biden indicted within 26 days.

Either he is still high on drugs or gone full-blown fascist thanks to them once he lost his supply...

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#332692: Oct 8th 2020 at 7:52:06 AM

[up] Indict Biden for what? Not being a bloody idiot on main?

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Oct 8th 2020 at 4:52:17 PM

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#332693: Oct 8th 2020 at 7:54:01 AM

They need to stop pumping Trump with drugs.

Now I’m morbidly curious on what a drugged up Trump debating would look like.

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#332694: Oct 8th 2020 at 7:56:31 AM

[up]x2 According to his tweets (through this Politico Article): "staging an attempted coup". He's also called for Obama and Hillary to be arrested because of said "attempted coup".

I doubt Barr or anyone else will try though; the look alone would be disastrous to Trump, and definitively kill his Presidency.

Edited by DingoWalley1 on Oct 8th 2020 at 10:56:43 AM

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#332695: Oct 8th 2020 at 7:56:57 AM

The fly was a symbol of Papa Nurgle's favor. Trump has done well in spreading disease and emulating Nurgle's physique.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, bitch!
#332696: Oct 8th 2020 at 7:59:15 AM

[up] Thats an insult to Nurgle. tongue

Watch Symphogear
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#332697: Oct 8th 2020 at 8:01:27 AM

[up], [up][up]

Unlike the GOP, Nurgle has at the least a twisted sense of compassion. tongue

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Oct 8th 2020 at 5:01:51 PM

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#332698: Oct 8th 2020 at 8:02:32 AM

The GOP are more akin to the High Lords of Terra.

That is very much not a compliment to the GOP.

Edited by M84 on Oct 8th 2020 at 11:02:45 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#332699: Oct 8th 2020 at 8:16:02 AM

And for more Trump being a goddamn monster, he called into Fox Business today and claimed he could have gotten Covid during his meetings with Gold Star families.

Edited by TheRoguePenguin on Oct 8th 2020 at 8:16:24 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#332700: Oct 8th 2020 at 8:19:10 AM

Not that surprising, given he's expressed contempt for veterans and those who died in wars multiple times.

Disgusted, but not surprised

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