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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#332651: Oct 8th 2020 at 1:09:35 AM

Yup it was Dean.

Poor guy mocked over just being too excited in the middle of a large crowd.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Alycus Since: Apr, 2018
#332652: Oct 8th 2020 at 1:13:01 AM

[up][up] They do, but only when it comes to mocking Democrats and minorities.

Edited by Alycus on Oct 8th 2020 at 1:13:19 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#332653: Oct 8th 2020 at 1:14:49 AM

[up]Trying to make a joke about the fly thing would require a bit of self-deprecation on their part, and a lot of rightwingers just can't do that.

Disgusted, but not surprised
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#332654: Oct 8th 2020 at 1:16:07 AM

Post-debate polls indicate that more viewers felt Harris did a better job than Pence. Not mindblowing numbers, but decent enough and sure to keep the Democrats' momentum going.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#332655: Oct 8th 2020 at 1:20:35 AM

[up][up] I believe thats a common sign of insecurity.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#332656: Oct 8th 2020 at 1:22:42 AM

Does right-wing humour even exist? The closest to that I remember is this weird chuckling right-wing YouTubers keep doing when they want to convince you something totally isn't bothering them.

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#332657: Oct 8th 2020 at 1:26:48 AM

[up]It exists, but it's mean-spirited, punches down, and is generally not very good.

I guess I could look up examples and link them...but I don't want to.

Edited by M84 on Oct 8th 2020 at 4:27:20 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#332658: Oct 8th 2020 at 1:29:20 AM

Rep. Salud Carbajal (D-CA 24) has tested positive for COVID after coming into contact with Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT). [1]

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#332659: Oct 8th 2020 at 1:34:54 AM

So that Pinkeye... are they perhaps faking Pence’s tests to get him into the debate?

TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#332660: Oct 8th 2020 at 1:38:05 AM

I would hope the debate commission wouldn't let him pull that shit after Donald Trump straight-up lied to them, but I also don't have faith they'd stand up to him if he tried to insist on his own test instead of theirs.

Edited by TheRoguePenguin on Oct 8th 2020 at 1:38:34 AM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#332661: Oct 8th 2020 at 1:47:49 AM

Pinkeye is not actually a very common symptom of COVID (roughly 1.1% of patients have it). So it's entirely plausible that Pence does not have COVID and it's caused by something else.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#332662: Oct 8th 2020 at 5:28:34 AM

So the next debate was announced by the debate commission to be virtual... and not an hour later Trump is saying he won’t do it. [1]

The Commission really gave him a way out of the debates didn’t they...

ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#332663: Oct 8th 2020 at 5:31:21 AM

Given that there is a VERY HIGH possibility that Trump will still have Covid and can still spread it I don't see how they can even entertain the possibility of a face to face debate. Virtual is the only way to go.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#332664: Oct 8th 2020 at 5:32:00 AM

If that happens, can Biden have 90 minutes of prime time to talk to voters alone?evil grin

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#332665: Oct 8th 2020 at 5:35:57 AM

Theresa Greenfield raised $28.7 million and Al Gross raised $9.1 million in Q3, continuing the trend of eye-popping Senate fundraising hauls.


Also Senator Mike Lee of Utah tweeted out:

Democracy isn't the objective; liberty, peace, and prospefity are. We want the human condition to flourish. Rank democracy can thwart that.

They just keep on saying the quiet part out loud, don't they?


[up] I hope so - Biden shouldn't be denied a chance to talk to voters just because Trump won't show up.

Edited by nova92 on Oct 8th 2020 at 5:36:46 AM

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#332666: Oct 8th 2020 at 5:40:21 AM

That’s after he tweeted out “We are not a democracy”.

It’s very concerning if Trump’s rhetoric starts gaining ground amongst senators, so far I don’t think we’ve had Mitch change his stance on peaceful transition of power, which is the key thing, but it’s still damming.

I wonder if they would have Biden debate one of the third-party candidate if Trump refuses to attend?

Edited by Silasw on Oct 8th 2020 at 12:41:24 PM

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
nova92 Since: Apr, 2020
#332667: Oct 8th 2020 at 5:44:48 AM

It's supposed to be a town-hall style debate, so they might not even need a third-party candidate. Biden could just take questions directly from an audience.

Edited by nova92 on Oct 8th 2020 at 5:44:57 AM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#332668: Oct 8th 2020 at 5:53:05 AM

So what did you guys think of the debate?

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#332669: Oct 8th 2020 at 6:01:56 AM

In other news, Trump refuses to hold a virtual debate with Biden, and will hold a campaign rally instead.

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#332670: Oct 8th 2020 at 6:05:04 AM

Biden crosses 270 threshold in CNN's Electoral College outlook for first time – Joe Biden is surging in the battle for the White House with less than four weeks to go until Election Day.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/07/politics/electoral-college-joe-biden-donald-trump/index.html

Trump asked Walter Reed doctors to sign ND As in 2019 At least two Walter Reed doctors who refused to sign non-disclosure agreements last year were not permitted to be involved in Trump’s care.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-asked-walter-reed-doctors-sign-non-disclosure-agreements-2019-n1242293

‘Where are all of the arrests?’: Trump demands Barr lock up his foes – The day-long run of tweets and retweets marked the most frantic stretch of Trump’s public activity since he left Walter Reed.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/07/trump-demands-barr-arrest-foes-427389

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#332671: Oct 8th 2020 at 6:06:56 AM

@Silasw, fuck I hope not. Biden gains nothing by debating Lolbertarians and Green quacks.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#332672: Oct 8th 2020 at 6:15:41 AM

Figures, now is his last chance to actually get them arrested. I don't expect Barr to comply though, evil as he may be.

“Where are all of the arrests?” Trump said, after several dozen tweets on the subject over the past 24 hours. “Can you imagine if the roles were reversed? Long term sentences would have started two years ago. Shameful!”

"I should have been arrested years ago!", disgruntled criminal quips...

Can we, indeed. grin

Edited by Redmess on Oct 8th 2020 at 3:22:49 PM

Hope shines brightest in the darkest times
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#332673: Oct 8th 2020 at 6:23:46 AM

So we have a Senator attacking the notion of democracy and Trump calling for arresting the other candidate. Of course.

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#332674: Oct 8th 2020 at 6:27:50 AM

If Trump doesn't appear at Debate no. 2, he's done. The last time a major candidate avoided a debate, they lost badly (and that was Jimmy Carter in '80).

Its as if Trump really wants to lose, but I know his ego won't allow that. Still, I can see the Polls reach +20 for Biden before starting to return to a more normal +5-+15 range.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#332675: Oct 8th 2020 at 6:31:46 AM

I think he's done already. What's more, I think it's starting to sink in with Trump, going by his increasingly irate Twitter ramblings.

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