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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#332376: Oct 7th 2020 at 12:29:57 PM

So what are these outcomes?

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RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#332377: Oct 7th 2020 at 12:31:13 PM

I think it's just the sample maps at the top of the page. There's 22 so about every 4% shift in one direction they'll change whose winning map it is.

Scarecrow4774 from In Wonderland Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#332378: Oct 7th 2020 at 12:32:18 PM

[up] Yeah that's what I was talking about.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#332379: Oct 7th 2020 at 12:32:30 PM

Oh, I see.

I notice there is one projection that basically colours almost all of the US red. That would be the absolute worst case scenario, I assume.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#332380: Oct 7th 2020 at 12:34:36 PM

Yes, but its as awful as it is unlikely.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#332381: Oct 7th 2020 at 12:35:39 PM

Well, I'm not sure how I should read that map distribution.

This last month sure seems to have solidified Biden's chances.

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astrokitty Happiness is a cup of tea from Somewhere Out There Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#332383: Oct 7th 2020 at 12:41:01 PM

The chances of Trump actually listening to his advisors are about the same as his chances of developing superpowers from his diet of fast food.

Edited by astrokitty on Oct 7th 2020 at 3:42:31 PM

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Reflextion from a post-sanity world (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
#332384: Oct 7th 2020 at 12:42:22 PM

If Trump was the sort of person who listened to the people who know what the fuck they're doing, very little of the past four years would've happened the way they did.

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Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf Since: Jan, 2019
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#332386: Oct 7th 2020 at 12:45:30 PM

I think the point is more that Trump's very own advisors are just insisting on it, and at that point, the ship is way past sinking.

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#332387: Oct 7th 2020 at 12:45:44 PM

[up][up] Damn you, I saw the blue text, thought for a moment you linked to an article... and then read the rest of the sentence.

Don't get my hopes up.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Oct 7th 2020 at 9:45:51 PM

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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#332388: Oct 7th 2020 at 12:47:01 PM

It's also mentioned that he fears prison and might be talking to Pence about a pardon.

I can buy the prison thing, but talking about a pardon sounds doubtful since that would require him to actually consider conceding.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#332389: Oct 7th 2020 at 12:47:06 PM

Lol, almost had me fooled there for a second too. But then again, no, no way a narcissist like this guy is ever gonna resign.

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SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#332390: Oct 7th 2020 at 12:47:15 PM

Trump won’t resign or leave with honor. Either he’s dragged out or he does.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#332391: Oct 7th 2020 at 12:49:23 PM

I can't see him resigning. I could see him sulk in his corner and rant on Twitter if he loses in a landslide, giving up like a spiteful child.

Probably the best case scenario, but at least then he isn't calling for violence.

[up][up][up]And remember, his biggest legal jeopardy comes from the state of New York, not federal courts. Nothing Pence says changes that.

Edited by Rationalinsanity on Oct 7th 2020 at 4:50:20 PM

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RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#332392: Oct 7th 2020 at 12:50:55 PM

I imagine the advice ultimately comes from the Senate, because if Trump resigns they logic probably goes that this would depress anti-Trump turnout and therefore mean the Republicans will keep the ability to block all appointments for the next four years.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#332393: Oct 7th 2020 at 12:54:48 PM

I'm no tso sure, I could see him resigning if it would get him pardoned. This is the same guy who deliberately lets his companies go bankrupt in order to avoid paying taxes, which isn't exactly an ego boost either. And what does he care if he needs to talk his way out of losing, when it keep shim out of jail?

[up] I can totally see the GOP throw Trump under the bus once he stops suiting their needs, which I have been predicting for a while now.

Edited by Redmess on Oct 7th 2020 at 9:55:51 PM

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#332394: Oct 7th 2020 at 12:59:25 PM

But on the other hand, Trump resigning might depress their turnout. The GOP base is increasingly a Trump personality cult.

Frankly, I won't believe any of this without a more solid source than unnamed White employees.

Edited by Rationalinsanity on Oct 7th 2020 at 5:00:07 AM

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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#332395: Oct 7th 2020 at 1:01:03 PM

Resigning to get pardoned is paramount to admission of guilt — you don't get pardoned if you didn't commit any crimes. Plus New York could still get him slammed for the tax stuff. I doubt Trump is thinking that clearly anyway.

devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#332396: Oct 7th 2020 at 1:04:25 PM

Trump is all they have, the GOP will simply try to find the next Trump

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#332397: Oct 7th 2020 at 1:06:48 PM

I don't see a resignation happening before the Supreme Court nomination concludes because Pence taking over means the Vice President seat is vacant and that'll cost the Senate GOP a critical vote.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#332398: Oct 7th 2020 at 1:07:27 PM

I don't think Trump would really care about indirectly admitting guilt as long as it keeps him out of jail.

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GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#332399: Oct 7th 2020 at 1:10:35 PM

[up] I'm not sure if Trump is capable of admitting guilt even with threat of jail.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#332400: Oct 7th 2020 at 1:12:10 PM

Plus this assumes Trump would even see a pardon as admitting guilt. I remember a video where it blindsided Arpaio.


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