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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#332351: Oct 7th 2020 at 10:54:30 AM

Apparently a lot of the money was wasted on ads in DC to boost Trump's ego.

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RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#332352: Oct 7th 2020 at 10:54:53 AM

Trump's not up in Ohio, by polling averages he's half a percent behind.

So like, remind me how money affects a campaign?

Money = Adverts, Adverts = Awareness, Awareness = Votes. And it's one of the few ways you'll reach low-information voters.

Edited by RainehDaze on Oct 7th 2020 at 6:55:31 PM

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ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#332354: Oct 7th 2020 at 11:01:11 AM

[up][up] Yup, the more money you have the more adds you can buy, the more events you can hold, more mailouts you can do, more people you can hire to canvas for you.

If you have a robust warchest and stay sensible in your spending you can drown out your opponent and insure that low info/undecided voters hear your name more times then the other guys name ergo they will be more likely to vote for you. "Oh yeah...I've heard of XXX, so I'll vote for him"

If you have a bunch of overspending grifters on your campaign you can find yourself lagging in the polls and have no money to pour into those areas you are trailing. Which is where Trump is now, he's trailing in ALLLLLOT of Must Win areas and not enough money to shore things up hence pulling money out of one area and into another.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#332355: Oct 7th 2020 at 11:07:14 AM

Even Goddamn Rasmussen has Biden up by 12 points.

And there are several polls that place Biden at a 14+ point lead.

That's crazy, if those numbers bear out then we would see a landslide.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#332356: Oct 7th 2020 at 11:07:22 AM

The one thing Trump has constantly spent money on is the front ad on Youtube, aside from the one week Biden took over, They really want to keep that ad and are likely funneling in large amounts to keep it out of the hands of Biden.

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#332357: Oct 7th 2020 at 11:13:19 AM

In case no-one's seen it, here's a picture of the set-up for the VP debate:

VP Debate Image

It's not until you see the set-up you realise just how close together 12 foot really is. The plexi-glass is also quite slim and small. I saw images earlier of them being cleaned, and they're shorter than an adult man standing up and barely wide enough to block. There's also no protection for the host and he's sat quite close to them both as well.

There's been a bit an outcry about the set-up, given that the White House is currently a hotspot. It's not just concern about Harris, but about the host and venue staff as well. Both Pence and Harris have tested negative in the pre-debate test.

According to the BBC, the 12 foot is being measured from the centre of one chair to the centre of the other chair (scroll down for the picture).

Edited by Wyldchyld on Oct 7th 2020 at 7:22:11 PM

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#332358: Oct 7th 2020 at 11:17:44 AM

@Raineh Daze: Huh, yes he is. I was basing that on old data.

Yeah, pulling money from a must-win state where you’re in a statistical tie isn’t a good look.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/ohio/

Edited by Galadriel on Oct 7th 2020 at 2:18:41 PM

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#332359: Oct 7th 2020 at 11:18:47 AM

[up][up] Wow, those plexiglass pieces are a joke. I expected a full-on plexiglass wall to be put up between them.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Oct 7th 2020 at 8:26:28 PM

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PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#332360: Oct 7th 2020 at 11:21:46 AM

I’m starting to think Trump intentionally let this pandemic spread. He knows that no one will criticize him, because he’s eccentric and they’re fucking idiots.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#332361: Oct 7th 2020 at 11:24:03 AM

Honestly, yeah. You'd think they could spring for a freaking cloth divider or something; those would do a better job than those cardboard standee rejects.

It's been fun.
ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#332362: Oct 7th 2020 at 11:26:47 AM

They should be okay since it looks like they would be sitting behind desks rather than standing at podiums, and there are TWO dividers so the particles would have to do some serious swerves to get from one to the other. But still not an ideal set up.

Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf Since: Jan, 2019
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#332363: Oct 7th 2020 at 11:26:59 AM

[up][up][up]He did not intentionally let the pandemic spread. But he is so pre-occupied with his image that he cannot fathom showing weakness to it. A strong response to Covid would have felt like surrendering to it. Much better for his strongman image if he just stands up and says he'll not bow to the virus.

Edited by Resileafs on Oct 7th 2020 at 2:27:07 PM

ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#332364: Oct 7th 2020 at 11:29:29 AM

Which ties back to Mary Trump's statements that any sort of illness is a 'weakness' or a 'flaw' Only the weak and pathetic people get sick in the Trump world.

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#332365: Oct 7th 2020 at 11:32:49 AM

Again, I really need to read Mary Trump's book. note  I guess I will, the week before the election.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#332366: Oct 7th 2020 at 11:34:02 AM

A NJ USPS employee was dumping mail in the river from left leaning areas.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/usps-worker-in-nj-arrested-for-allegedly-dumping-mail-including-election-ballots/2656666/

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NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#332367: Oct 7th 2020 at 11:36:59 AM

Welp, enjoy five years in federal prison, asshole.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#332368: Oct 7th 2020 at 11:37:47 AM

I think they want to avoid being muffled by a large divider, which would be easy enough to solve. I'm not sure what is up with that setup either.

Looks like there won't be any live coverage in my country for this debate. Oh well, CNN it is, then. How many hours till it starts?

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Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf Since: Jan, 2019
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#332369: Oct 7th 2020 at 11:38:38 AM

[up][up][up]So as it turns out, Trump was right when he said ballots were being thrown in the river! But his supporters are the ones doing it.

What did we say about projection again? tongue

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#332370: Oct 7th 2020 at 11:44:33 AM

[up][up]A little more than six hours.

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#332371: Oct 7th 2020 at 11:45:09 AM

They should be okay since it looks like they would be sitting behind desks rather than standing at podiums, and there are TWO dividers so the particles would have to do some serious swerves to get from one to the other. But still not an ideal set up.

Most of the criticism I've seen is about the exposure of the host to both of them.

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#332372: Oct 7th 2020 at 11:47:51 AM

Yeah, I don't understand why they didn't think of a screen for the host.

So what are the expectations for the debate? I assume both will at least follow debate rules?

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#332373: Oct 7th 2020 at 11:48:35 AM

What did we say about projection again?

Every bloody time.

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Scarecrow4774 from In Wonderland Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#332374: Oct 7th 2020 at 12:07:58 PM

Fivethirtyeight just gave Biden another shot at winning. Before Trump had four different outcomes. Now he only has three.

Edited by Scarecrow4774 on Oct 7th 2020 at 3:08:05 PM

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#332375: Oct 7th 2020 at 12:29:52 PM

Oh, you mean at the top of the page.


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