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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Yeah, hopefully the keep up, but those numbers are kinda historic - hopefully enough to secure a quick and decisive win on November 3rd.
The main concerns I have are twofold. The first is just the electoral college screwing over the popular vote, as they have done for every Republican president for the past 20 years.
The second is the confusion that could be wrought due to the increase of mail in voters, and the resulting staggering of the receiving (and therefore counting) of the votes. As I understand it the total of the votes cast won't be known for a few days after election day. Even if Biden wins legit when all votes are counted, Trump could seem to win by the votes counted on that first day (it does favour him slightly in this regard, more GOP voters are willing to go out and vote in person), and declare victory - and then once the totals are fully counted and Biden comes out on top, he (and the GOP, and the right's media apparatus) can claim this is some kind of shenanigans the Dems are engaging in to fix the election and literally just try a coup to keep Trump in. That's a very dangerous and unpredictable possibility, but Trump would have to win the votes counted so far on that first day to make it work.
The best possible outcome therefore is for Biden to crush Trump so decisively that the electoral college can't screw it all up, and that Biden comes out on top on that very first day. The polls are hopepilling me that this is possible atm, but I'm not going to assume it happens just yet.
Very. Double digits is nuts. Hillary I think was more like +4 or so up?
Edited by GoldenKaos on Oct 7th 2020 at 6:16:12 PM
"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."A few weeks ago, my assumption was that Biden would win by about Obama's margins. But now polls have him ahead by levels Obama never had.
Not sure what to compare him to now though. Reagan ran dominant campaigns in a less polarized environment, and Bill Clinton had Ross Perot draining votes from the Republicans.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.COVID engineered to kill specific people? I don't think the dems would take Metal Gear Solid that literally.
Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.In 2016, Hillary’s polling average was usually between +3 and +7 from the summer onwards, with a few dips down to a statistical tie. As of Oct 7, 2016 it was +5.5.
But Biden’s polling numbers in PA, WI, MI are similar to what Hillary’s were in 2016 (ahead of Trump by 5-6 points).
Edited by Galadriel on Oct 7th 2020 at 1:38:00 PM
Here's a non-paywalled source from the Texas Tribune.
Edited by tclittle on Oct 7th 2020 at 12:48:18 PM
"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."

It absolutely blows my mind that we're seeing multiple serious polls with Biden up by 12+ and 14+, that's landslide numbers.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang