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#331951: Oct 6th 2020 at 7:39:14 AM

People will dig in their heels and shout until they're blue in the face if their personal freedoms are under attack. They just want the ability to do whatever they want, consequences be damned.

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#331952: Oct 6th 2020 at 7:40:45 AM

Also, Westerners in general are not really used to covering their faces, and face coverings are usually seen as something only criminals do.

John Oliver also points out that signature matching is a terrible idea, and that people have great trouble replicating their own signature. The main example given is... Nixon. That's right, the current system would not even let Nixon pass the signature test.

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#331954: Oct 6th 2020 at 7:44:32 AM

People will dig in their heels and shout until they're blue in the face if their personal freedoms are under attack. They just want the ability to do whatever they want, consequences be damned.

Eeyup. And Americans take that to a fucking extreme, too. The basic principle that "Your rights end where another person's rights begin" is totally lost on us. We're a country of Unique and Special Snowflakes who see themselves as the Main Character in the story of life, who see our country as the Main Character in the story of the world, and who wholeheartedly support Protagonist-Centered Morality.

At least, for heterosexual middle-class whites who are privileged enough to opt out of the civil rights battles happening around us.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 6th 2020 at 7:45:32 AM

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#331955: Oct 6th 2020 at 7:45:54 AM

I've not seen the thing [up][up][up] is referring to, but this is how Nixon's signature changed over time.

Edited by JamieBGood on Oct 6th 2020 at 3:46:16 PM

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#331956: Oct 6th 2020 at 7:48:26 AM

[up][up]Probably didn't help that the CDC told a "little" white lie about masks not being helpful early on due to the USA having a shortage of PPE.

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#331957: Oct 6th 2020 at 7:48:44 AM

I remember a show, I think Highlander, she a forger was exposed precisely because all the fake signatures were identical.

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#331958: Oct 6th 2020 at 7:52:57 AM

"The basic principle that "Your rights end where another person's rights begin" is totally lost on us."

They way I see it, is more "this is my freedom, what happen to you afterward matter little" for them throwing a punch to your face means "I move my fish toward the space your face is, if your face was there, well that was your fault".

I see this with trump and is suporter: there a good emphasis in him doing something and very little of what that something does, so trump get credit for doing the bare minimun.

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#331959: Oct 6th 2020 at 7:53:28 AM

IIRC, that wasn't exactly a lie, especially during a PPE shortage. Masks don't protect you from COVID. They protect other people from getting COVID from you. They only work if we're all using them.

Every time someone refuses to wear a mask, they aren't recklessly endangering themselves. They're threatening the lives of everyone that interacts with them. Wearing the mask is a personal responsibility for the benefit of others, that does not directly enrich yourself. Which is, of course, a key reason that the Fuck You, Got Mine crowd doesn't care.

But if there's an insufficient number of masks for everyone to have one, then countering the virus by having everybody wear a mask isn't even an option on the table. People were buying huge stocks of the masks under the misassumption that so long as they're wearing the mask, they're safe from the plague that's killing everyone else. And that's just not how it works.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 6th 2020 at 7:56:52 AM

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#331960: Oct 6th 2020 at 7:56:32 AM

[up]No, no, they do protect you.

Sure, they're mostly better at protecting other people from you, but they protect you too.

If anyone's still saying they don't protect their wearers...they're full of shit.

Edited by M84 on Oct 6th 2020 at 10:57:41 PM

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#331961: Oct 6th 2020 at 7:57:23 AM

Yeah, turns out they actually do help in both directions. That’s a pretty recent discovery though.

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#331962: Oct 6th 2020 at 7:57:33 AM

I do imagine that the germs will have at least a slightly harder time entering your airways if you're wearing a mask.

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#331963: Oct 6th 2020 at 7:57:41 AM

Lol nvm, my point has been made multiple times.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Oct 6th 2020 at 7:58:24 AM

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#331964: Oct 6th 2020 at 8:10:48 AM

To add to the answers to the "What the fuck is wrong with these people?!" question from the previous page, a surprising part of it is the "don't give in to fear" mentality that became prevalent in US-American culture after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, as a defiant reaction to the intent behind said attacks. It works against terrorism because it's performed by humans who want to cause panic amongst the target populace to expoit it for achieving their actual goals. But apparently nobody bothered to remind people that the mentality is supposed to be only applied to such a context, and to be abandoned entirely when dealing with something that doesn't just not care about you feeling fear or any emotion towards it, it doesn't even have the capacity to care about such things... or even the capacity to feel anything, for that matter.

It's both ironic and horrific that US-Americans by and large have no problem comprehending and accepting that fact when it comes to hurricanes, earthquakes or wildfires, but an astonishingly large proportion of said population appear to find it nigh-impossible to do the same with a disease.

Edited by MarqFJA on Oct 6th 2020 at 6:11:51 PM

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#331965: Oct 6th 2020 at 8:15:24 AM

Except the did given in to fear... enough to accept the PATRIOT act.

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#331966: Oct 6th 2020 at 8:15:56 AM

[up][up]Honestly, I would argue that this whole 'never give in to fear' concept is flawed. Americans have given in to fear. They fear Mexicans, they fear Chinese, they fear Muslims, they fear non-Muslims who look like Muslims. Americans (mostly in the GOP) are terrified of outsiders. It's why Trump and his supporters are so adamant that the virus is China's fault. Way easier to blame and fear the outsider.

Edited by Resileafs on Oct 6th 2020 at 11:16:05 AM

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#331967: Oct 6th 2020 at 8:15:59 AM

[up]x3 It's probably because the virus has been politicized so much. Trump's personal experience with the virus has probably deluded some people into thinking that the virus isn't that bad and even if you catch it there's medicine that will fix you right up, facts to the contrary.

Edited by Altris on Oct 6th 2020 at 8:16:24 AM

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#331968: Oct 6th 2020 at 8:16:08 AM

It's both ironic and horrific that US-Americans by and large have no problem comprehending and accepting that fact when it comes to hurricanes, earthquakes or wildfires, but an astonishingly large proportion of said population appear to find it nigh-impossible to do the same with a disease.

Indeed.

It's all because of the Republican Party, no Republicans have made earthquakes a partisan issue. But they did with Covid, and that means that every braindead Republican pawn now desperately has to act as if it's irrelevant or else they aren't owning the libs hard enough.

It's disgusting and stupid and a perfect encapsulation of how irrational their party is.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Oct 6th 2020 at 8:16:51 AM

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#331969: Oct 6th 2020 at 8:17:50 AM

[up]x4 Except they'd never admit to that as "giving in to fear" - that's "bravely striking back against terrorism". Their narrative is constantly flexible to make themselves out to be the big man.

Edited by GoldenKaos on Oct 6th 2020 at 4:18:22 PM

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#331970: Oct 6th 2020 at 8:22:16 AM

[up][up]Honestly, I feel like they have made hurricanes a political issue. Puerto Rico has still not recovered from Maria because Trump refuses to help them, and hurricanes in general are getting worse because of climate change, which the Republicans also refuse to acknowledge.

And the day the big one hits California, if a Republican is in charge, I am absolutely certain that they are going to politicize it and celebrate the destruction of a Democrat state.

Edited by Resileafs on Oct 6th 2020 at 11:23:14 AM

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#331971: Oct 6th 2020 at 8:30:03 AM

no Republicans have made earthquakes a partisan issue.

You really should have seen this coming.

Pat Robertson, televangelist and long-time Republican activist/political operator once blamed the 2010 Haitian earthquake on the Haitian people “making a deal with the devil” during the 1791 slave rebellion.[1]

Bachmann has done similar with a number of natural disasters.

"I don't know how much God has to do to get the attention of the politicians," Bachmann said at a rally, eliciting chuckles from audience. "We've had an earthquake; we've had a hurricane. He said, 'Are you going to start listening to me here?' Listen to the American people because the American people are roaring right now... They know government is on a morbid obesity diet and we've got to rein in the spending."
[2]

Edited by Silasw on Oct 6th 2020 at 3:33:28 PM

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#331972: Oct 6th 2020 at 8:32:06 AM

Republicans will make everything a political issue for the reason that they refuse to talk about things when any reasonable person and will only bring them up at exactly the wrong times in exactly the wrong ways.

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#331973: Oct 6th 2020 at 8:45:36 AM

Also, Westerners in general are not really used to covering their faces, and face coverings are usually seen as something only criminals do.

Be careful with overgeneralizing with the "westerner" thing, since the whole not using masks thing is more common in Anglo-saxon countries like the U.S. and the U.K. than other western countries, through technically happens in other countries, but not in the same degree as the Anglosphere.

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#331974: Oct 6th 2020 at 8:51:37 AM

Hurricanes, earthquakes, and wildfires are a lot harder to ignore when they are happening in your backyard than a pandemic, so it's not that strange that people find it easier to ignore a virus than they do natural disasters.

[up][up][up][up] Notice how it became a lot easier to ignore that particular hurricane because it wasn't happening in their own backyard. Puerto Rico is practically a foreign country to them, not even being a state and all.

[up][up][up] Well, that's crackpot televangelism for you. They are quite a class apart from the regular Republican disaster denialism.

Edited by Redmess on Oct 6th 2020 at 5:55:19 PM

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#331975: Oct 6th 2020 at 8:55:12 AM

It helps that you can see a hurricane or an earthquake or a fire. Viruses otoh are not visible to the naked eye. It's a lot easier for people to try to dismiss and downplay them.

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